Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juhan Kallaste


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  DGG ( talk ) 02:28, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Juhan Kallaste

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No evidence of the type of sustained coverage that would meet the guidelines at WP:N; most of what is here and findable online is routine coverage following a brief burst of interest in his extreme age and subsequent death. There's no Wikipedia policy or consensus that states that the oldest anything is automatically notable by the encyclopedia's standards; numerous AfDs on the "oldest" individuals have been kept or deleted based on their individual merits. Thus we default to the general notability guidelines and any material of encyclopedic merit can be included on the many longevity-related lists on Wikipedia. Canadian  Paul  17:04, 12 July 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete There is nothing of encyclopedic value in this article. None of the refs are in English, so I'll AGF about whether the "facts" in this article actually appear in the sources. But even if they do, one sentence says "Kallaste's age has not been validated by any international body" and another says "...he changed his name in 1935 and there were claims that he was six years younger but made himself older to avoid the Soviet mobilisation during World War II...." That's hardly the stuff of encyclopedias. And then there's this doozy: "He spent his last years in an old people's home in Viljandi.[1] In his last two weeks, he lay in bed but was not in pain. He had not walked around for a long time but went to the toilet himself some months before his death.[2]" OK, swell. Both sentences are specifically footnoted. Still, in my view, the facts themselves, though ascribed to a source, add nothing to our encyclopedia. David in DC (talk) 20:53, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 15:34, 19 July 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Music1201  talk  17:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC) Keep- Being that he is believed to be the oldest Estonian ever male and was the oldest at tbe time of his death he represents in age a span of that culture just as other centarians and super centarians represent other cultures, by that barometer this artcle should stay Masterknighted (talk)
 * Delete. Lived, died. Nothing else. WP:BLP1E applies, as there's no sustained coverage to justify keeping the biography of someone who's only accomplishment that's been reported on is not dying. A dash of WP:PERMASTUB as well – when you start talking about that one time the article subject went poo and still can't get beyond stub length, that's indicative of something. ~ Rob 13 Talk 23:25, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete "Went to the toilet himself some months before his death"? Are you fucking kidding me?  E Eng  17:52, 3 August 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.