Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juiceslf (singer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:43, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Juiceslf (singer)

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I originally tagged this for speedy delete, but it was reverted (not by original creator). The article appears to have already been deleted at WP:Articles for deletion/Juiceslf (musician). Sungodtemple (talk) 20:02, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Sungodtemple (talk) 20:02, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Don't Delete!The nominator should understand that not every article on Wikipedia is meant for deletion, some may be stubs Stub and can be improved with time as musicians or ensembles status and credibility improves, that was why wikipedia stated in Wiki:criteria for musicians "Musicians or ensembles must meet either one of the following criteria", meaning they do not have to meet all criterias listed before they can be notable, they may meet some and others with time, although he is a notable musician satisfy the basic MUSICBIO and i spent my time creating it on draft before making it to be an article. He has had an album on country's Nigerian Apple Top 100 music chart here https://www.top-charts.com/songs/all-genres/nigeria/apple-music/2020-W22 and he published two books here https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BK5SXV28 and https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BK4XXN8J which is an example of notability and he even been signed a record deal https://menafn.com/1104799437/How-Dynast-Daniel-discovered-new-Steadee-Records-signee-Juiceslf and he even got nominated for the The Headies here https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/05/2022-headies-full-list-nominees/.Degal22 (talk) 09:35, 15 November 2022 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 16:32, 17 November 2022 (UTC)  Note to the closing admin:  is the creator of the article subject of this AfD.  Liliana UwU  (talk / contribs) 06:56, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:05, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt - fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN. Zero hits in reliable news sources for Nigeria. Should be WP:SALTed just like Juiceslf and Juiceslf (rapper). Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:19, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete and salt per nomination, previous AfD, and Spiderone. Note for related AfD at Articles for deletion/Cracking (album). QuietHere (talk) 23:04, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep This article has been improved and I believe the editor make the article of the musician to be notable because has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself as noted from the satisfaction of MUSICBIO. everything was written with good citations from independent news sources, artists do not have to work with other notable artists before they can become notable in their country or have an article on Wikipedia, what is important about notability is having recognised and covered by independent news sources under wikipedia guidelines. I'm convinced this passes WP:GNG, WP:BASIC, or WP:NMUSICIAN. Trivial mentions on a nomination for an award. Talk to me. 🙏🙏 (talk) 129,0, 16 November 2022 (UTC)  WP:SOCKSTRIKE  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 16:32, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt. There is no indication of notability. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:42, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: in fairness, being nominated for the Headies is some indication of notability – they are a major music award ceremony in Nigeria. Richard3120 (talk) 02:05, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * He's not actually listed as a nominee in the ref .-KH-1(talk) 02:11, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * He is check in the ref here Degal22 (talk) 01:12, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The article says he was nominated for "Rookie of the year" at The Headies 2022. But he is not mentioned as a nominee or winner at the WP article for that ceremony. Billboard has an article listing the nominees and he is not listed there: . And even if he was nominated, he didn't win: . The article linked by Degal22 above is the only media source I can find that mentions JuicesIf and the Headies in the same place, and it's also a shallow promotional reprint. He said he was nominated, but nobody else did. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 15:54, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete - WP:GAMENAME of non-notable musician.-KH-1 (talk) 02:11, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete stinks of undisclosed paid editing or a conflict of interest. So bold of them to assume that sources are not read. Best, Reading Beans (talk) 05:34, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt, I'm pretty sure recreation has been a problem for this article (in fact, I recognized the name while browsing recent changes). Liliana UwU  (talk / contribs) 06:50, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, Claims are not even in the sources. Lilsusanalex (talk) 15:10, 16 November 2022 (UTC) Sock strike  Girth Summit  (blether)  18:15, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Already deleted just three months ago at Articles for deletion/Juiceslf (musician). Nothing has changed since then. The sources that actually mention this musician are clearly retreads of his own promotional announcements. This article is just another attempt at the same, and violates WP:GAMENAME, WP:NOTPROMOTION, and WP:COI. See also Articles for deletion/Cracking (album). I also recommend salting due to multiple attempts to game the system; that move could be rescinded if the musician ever achieves notability in the future. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 15:25, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:MUSICBIO per above arguments. SBKSPP (talk) 06:31, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not notable. Bruxton (talk) 01:26, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete not notable, self-promotion. I concur with all the salt suggestions due to issues of recreation and sockpuppetry. Doczilla  @SUPERHEROLOGIST 20:07, 22 November 2022 (UTC)


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