Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julian Gallagher


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The result was   keep. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  21:10, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Julian Gallagher

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Asserts notability as having written and co-produced for Kylie Minogue. Absolutely no sources found, only link in article is a 404. Not all writers for notable acts are inherently notable themselves. If deleted, Category:Songs written by Julian Gallagher should go too. (Wow, this sat untouched for 4 years?!) Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:58, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:00, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep A quick look at Gallagher's allmusic page, cross-referenced with the print edition of "Complete UK Hit Singles," indicates he's written a string of top 10 songs on the UK charts ("In Your Eyes" #3; "Please Stay" #10; "Love at First Sight" #2 for Minogue, as well as "Got the Feeling" #5; "Don't Wanna Let You Go" #9; and "Closer to Me" #4 for the group 5ive, which is when I stopped checking). Gallagher's articles need work, not oblivion.Nostrildamus (talk) 15:25, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Work with what? I haven't found a single source that gives him non trivial mentions. Notability isn't inherited, ever ever ever. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 02:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This does not seem to be a case of inherited notability. Inherited notability would say that because the songwriter is notable, all the songs he wrote are also notable.  But in this case, the fact that Julian Gallgher wrote notable songs makes him notable, as the writer of notable songs. Rlendog (talk) 17:46, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 20:13, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm finding some sources, and I'll try to add them over the next couple of days. I see that he received a Grammy Award nomination in 2002 for his work with U2, and a nomination for a Ivor Novello Award for his songwriting for Kylie Minogue in 2003. He appears to be quite prolific. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 20:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable for the work he has done as a songwriter and producer with many successful acts, with songwriting credits on many hit singles - the fact that they are without exception cynical commercial pap shouldn't count against him. Co-wrote two songs nominated for an Ivor Novello Award in 2003, part of the hugely successful Biffco production team. --Michig (talk) 20:56, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Probable keep (pop music's not my area). See below. I have access to a subscription news bank (Highbeam), so will quote the bits for those. The others are on the internet.
 * Paul Nash, "The Irish Connecton", Sound on Sound, December 2001


 * Minogue gets fever for Dublin, Sunday Mirror, December 22, 2002. "She will again be working at Windmill Studios with Richard Stannard and Julian Gallagher, part of the songwriting and production team Kylie worked with on Fever. The pair, whose credits include the Spice Girls, U2, David Gray and The Corrs, are also working with Gabrielle on her next album [...]"


 * Gareth Grates Sunday Mirror, April 20, 2003. "It looks like Pop Idol winner Gareth Gates will be the next star to use the talents of Dublin-based producing team Biffco.[...] Biffco is the company name for songwriters and producers Richard Stannard and Julian Gallagher who are based in the famous Windmill Lane studios. One of the hottest songwriting and producing duos on the block, most recently Gallagher and Stannard have been producing and writing for Kylie Minogue, Victoria Beckham, Holly Vallance, Abs and Will Young. [...] and now it looks like Gareth is getting in on the Biffco act too. Our source said: "The Biffco duo are the hottest there are at the minute, particularly now they are working with Kylie."


 * Life's Sweet for Babes 'n' the Hood, Coventry Evening Telegraph, October 24, 2003. "The Kittens release their third album next month and the first sample, 'If You Come To Me', is out on Monday. It's a trademark up-tempo ballad bearing the stamp of Richard Stannard and Julian Gallagher, the musical team who have worked for the Spice Girls and Dido among others."


 * Bono: in the name of love by Mick Wall, SevenOaks, 2005, p, 282. "The studio version included input from producers Richard Stannard and Julian Gallagher, who were then better known for working with the likes of Kylie [...]"


 * 2002 Grammy Award Nominees For Production and Engineering All That You Can't Leave Behind, U2. Producers: Brian Eno, Daniel Lanois. Engineers: Brian Eno, Steve Fitzmaurice, Julian Gallagher, Mike Hedges, Daniel Lanois, Steve Lillywhite, Tim Palmer, Richard Rainey, Richard Stannard.


 * Wannabe: How the Spice Girls Reinvented Pop Fame By David Sinclair, Omnibus Press, 2004, p. 57


 * Minogue tavels 'Light Years' on EMI, Billboard, June 17, 2000


 * Gabrielle: I'm hooked on sweets but at least I don't do any drugs, Daily Mail, October 5, 2007
 * – Voceditenore (talk) 06:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. Perhaps it would be better to merge this article with the Richard Stannard (songwriter) article, and move to Biffco (currently a redirect to Back to the Future) or Biffco Productions, since the sources generally discuss the production/songwriting team rather than these two as individuals.--Michig (talk) 07:43, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.