Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julian Trail


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 04:20, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Julian Trail

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There are some potential claims of notability here but real issues with verifiability especially in that no reliable sources back up the VoA claim and Levine's own site calls him a faculty member and not an assistant dean which I'm not sure would confer notability. Also utter lack of reliable sources other then mentions of performancs. No apparent reviews of his work. Thoughts? StarM 04:22, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Does not appear to pass either WP:PROF or WP:CREATIVE or WP:MUSIC. No evidence of significant scholarship and does not appear to be notable as a musician. Regarding Assistant Dean, even if he was one at some point (the article was created in 2006), that would not be sufficient for academic notability; not even if he was a Dean. WP:PROF specifies that only administrative posts at the level of a university president/chancellor confer automatic notability and that for lesser posts satisfying some other criterion of WP:PROF is needed. Nsk92 (talk) 06:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Not covered by established media. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Found about 10 outside sources mentioning his work in the D.C. region on news.google.com that indicates to me that in a more specialized search it could be that something more significant turns up.   I think the article needs improvement right now, as notability is beginning to be established.  --Buridan (talk) 15:41, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Found 7 news articles mentioning him as a pianist, but they were mostly community events articles listing upcoming activities, where he was listed together with other performers. The fact that news articles featuring him as a pianist are hard to find, if they in fact exist, suggests lack of notability.--Eric Yurken (talk) 02:59, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep per the improved article. That he is called upon to play at the National Archives speaks well toward his notabiliy.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 03:50, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment the archives link is a trivial mention in a press release that does not discuss his work. I believe it's long established here that press releases cannot be used for notability because they can say whatever they want. StarM  13:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps... except that this particular "release" was put out by the National Archives themselves, and may be considered a news release rather than a publicist's blurb and although short, directly addresses their repeated performances at their facility... notability indeed.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 03:06, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: insufficient coverage, press releases cannot be used for notability, fails WP:MUSIC. JamesBurns (talk) 00:52, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


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