Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julianna White


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep the whole shebang. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Julianna White

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Also included in this nomination:
 * Kaity Rodriguez
 * Tiffany Andrade
 * Erin Abrahamson
 * Ashley Harder
 * Jessica Boyington
 * Sylvia Pogorzelski
 * Janaye Ingram

Looking for input on whether former Miss New Jersey USA winners are notable enough for their own article. They all appear to fail WP:BLP1E, as their victory in this local beauty contest appears to be the only verifiably notable event in their lives. None of them went on to win Miss USA, and all of them seem to have settled down into normal, non-notable careers. A few of them have had a very minor role in a movie or TV show, but nothing that would satisfy WP:ENT or WP:GNG. Snotty Wong  confess 18:22, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:21, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:21, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - If other Miss USA state winners are allowed pages, why can't Miss New Jersey USA winners have pages? I just don't understand why all of these should be deleted, yet other state pageant titleholders pages aren't being deleted. I definitely think that they are notable enough for a page, they hold a title which makes them noteworthy and competed in a prestigious national pageant. They are well known enough and plenty of other less notable people have articles. MissAmericaGirl (talk) 20:44, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No prejudice intended to New Jersey in particular, Julianna White just happened to be the first page I stumbled upon during a new page patrol. Is there a precedent set or a previous consensus that all winners of Miss USA are automatically notable?    Snotty Wong   confess 21:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes there is precedent. As I said I'll pull up the previous AFDs tonight. PageantUpdater  talk • contribs  23:25, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Unfortunately, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not usually accepted as a valid argument. How they pass WP:N and WP:BLP is what needs to be argued. - Pmedema (talk) 21:22, 6 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep precedent is that Miss USA & Miss America state titleholders are notable as winners of state titles & as national representatives. Will pull up previous AFD decisions when I get home from work.  PageantUpdater  talk • contribs  23:23, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * See Articles for deletion/Courtney Barnas. All except nominator recommends keeping the article on the basis that state winners are notable. Also Articles for deletion/Brittany Mason (keep), Articles for deletion/Candace Brown (no consensus) PageantUpdater  talk • contribs  08:12, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Note: Be careful if you are googling for sources on "ashley harder"!!!--Milowent • talkblp-r 20:20, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep: State (as opposed to local or municipal) pageant winners in the top 2 US pageants are generally notable.  Below those levels, its a different story--Milowent • talkblp-r  19:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep - per above keep sayers.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:11, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
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