Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julie Umerle


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The result was   delete. Upon further review, the arguments presented by most of the Keeps were without merit, and they all seemed to have a COI. ff m  20:08, 24 September 2008 (UTC) 
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The result was   no consensus. ff m  00:21, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Julie Umerle

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I don't think this qualifies for speedy deletion, as there seems to be some claim to notability. However, those claims are not backed up by any reliable sources. This article does not fulfill notability per WP:CREATIVE. In a few years she may be notable, but at the moment is not  freshacconci  talk talk  11:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions.   — freshacconci  talk talk  11:27, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - there's nothing here yet, and a link to a spreadsheet provides no verifiable ground for any kind of notability. Drmies (talk) 16:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * She has many pages referring to her on google and seems to be a well-regarded and established artist of note. I think she qualifies as 'notable' in terms of her track record. Her entry needs more work tho to establish 'notability'. Vaishal (talk) 16:43, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Falls a bit short of WP:CREATIVE. Work in a corporate collection and a couple of grants is a promising start to a career, but not notable enough for WP yet.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 17:24, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - I disagree about that! CV is extensive. Vaishal (talk) 18:10, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment to Vaishal: But where is that CV? An online gallery sells her work, and Deutsche Bank lists her as one of the (thousands) of artists that they hold work from. The article should establish its own relevance, and it doesn't--not verifiably so, anyway. Delete still. Drmies (talk) 18:36, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep I think there may be sources. See the critical statements from others at - -apparently had a solo exhibition with a published catalog.DGG (talk) 00:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Close, maybe with a few important museum collections and exhibitions...Modernist (talk) 05:23, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * KEEPJulie Umerle is a notable artist, and I think that the article does just enough to establish this. Tshuku (talk) 06:05, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Looking at my earlier version of this article, I can now see how much it has improved - so thank you all for your input.  Content is verifiable.  The artist is 'notable' if not yet famous! Vaishal (talk) 06:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

The two main contributing editors Vaishal  and Tshuku are both SPA editors... COI?.  Teapot  george Talk  20:31, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:CREATIVE she is not represented within the permanent collections of any notable galleries or museums and there are hardly any secondary sources.
 * Sorry. I am a newcomer and did not mean to offend. Tshuku (talk) 23:57, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I am an inclusionist...more diversity please! Partitas (talk) 17:28, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Ethicoa... Not notable yet. Johnbod (talk) 18:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment to  Teapot  : I think it is unfair to assume that I am a SPA editor. Vaishal (talk) 18:21, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Until today you had made 120 edits all of which were to the Julie Umerle article.  Teapot  george Talk  19:48, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment to  Teapot  : Yes, we were all agreed that it needed a lot of work. Thanks for your interest in my editing. I shall take your comments on board.Vaishal (talk) 19:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - Comment to Teapot. What percentage of women are represented in major collections? The artist's work is obviously notable to have received so many awards. Diversity please!! Zubrowka (talk) 01:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC) — Zubrowka (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * a good point... Tshuku (talk) 03:21, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


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