Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juliette Derricotte


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. Sr13 is almost Singularity 04:29, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Juliette Derricotte

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Prod with reason: "Non-notable woman. Dying in a car collision does not raise her to notability required of the encyclopedia." Yet references indicate that this woman has achieved nobility within civil rights due the reasons of her death. Also there has been a book written on her:. There appear to be reasons for a wider debate. My posting is neutral. SilkTork 10:40, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. Notability more than established by reliable, independent secondary sources linked in the references section. JulesH 11:44, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete The lead paragraph does not even summarize her notability - there is one reference, but it is not even used as a citation within the article to support or substantiate any of the claims to notability - the rest are just external links. As SilkTork stated, the victim is not notable beyond dying in a car accident and the extreme racist treatment she received. Article does not state or support any lasting impact or effect the subject had. --Ozgod 13:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm not sure on what basis you distinguish between a reference and an external link here. I note that it was you yourself who separated out the four references other than the book into an external links section.  Of these, at least the second is a reliable source that provides verification of the content of the article.  The fourth, also, provides verification of some of the information, although I am not certain as to its reliability.  JulesH 14:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, WP:BIO does not require its subjects to have had "lasting impact or effect". That is merely one of 6 standards that are applied, with the general rule being that meeting any one is considered adequate.  Of these, we can see that this person meets the first ("subject of published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent and independent of the subject") and the second ("subject of a credible independent biography"). JulesH 14:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are references, and the second reports that the incident triggered several investigations. The article just needs a bit of rewriting. Clarityfiend 16:09, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep: According to Amazon, the biography exists, and that's good enough to pass WP:BIO.   RGTraynor  16:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * keep. It's a crappy article, but the subject is clearly notable for accomplishments before her death. Argyriou (talk) 16:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Why was this brought here in the first place if no one wants it deleted?  Burntsauce 17:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. It was proposed for deletion. Under the prod system, if nobody objects within 5 days the article is deleted without discussion. I didn't feel I knew enough to simply remove the prod, so I popped it here for a wider discussion. Also, I have known the prod tag to be replaced after removing it. It was safer to get a consensus for the article to remain or not. SilkTork 14:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article is incomplete, but Derricotte was already internationally known as an educator before her death. --Dhartung | Talk 00:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.