Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julio Mario Santo Domingo, Jr.


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The result was   keep. The Bushranger One ping only 05:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Julio Mario Santo Domingo, Jr.

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Fails WP:GNG. His only real claim to notability is derivative of his father's. All cited sources are obituaries. Bbb23 (talk) 17:29, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 20:22, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. Those obituaries in major newspapers constitute significant coverage in independent reliable sources, establishing notability. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:29, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Question. What do they say that establishes notability independent of his father? And there are no cited sources during his lifetime? What does that say about his notability?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:15, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The obituaries are about Julio Mario Santo Domingo, Jr., not his father, so support the son's notability, not the father's. All that the fact that no sources are cited from his lifetime means is that the creator of the article had the good judgement to use sources that give an overview of the subject's life rather than ones about specific news events. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:05, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but you didn't answer my question, which is what does it state in the obits that support the subject's notability. The fact of an obit in and of itself doesn't cut it.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:05, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * According to our definition of notability the fact of significant coverage in independent reliable sources does cut it. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:05, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - The obituaries are ones initiated by the news organisations, and not paid death notices. As such, they represent significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources which satisfies WP:GNG.  As to why this guy is notable, he was the head of a huge family conglomerate.  He was being noted as business person, significant member of a notable family, and likely because he was incredibly wealthy. Perhaps you don't personally think that is notable, but it appears the news media does. -- Whpq (talk) 16:22, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Alpha_Quadrant    (talk)    17:16, 9 October 2011 (UTC)




 * Delete fails WP:GNG. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:34, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep The obituaries in the article are significant, independent sources from reputable publications, such as Latin American Herald Tribune, El Espectador, El Mundo, and Revista Cromos. The GNG is clearly met. Goodvac (talk) 02:41, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
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