Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julius Patrick


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The result was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 17:11, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Julius Patrick

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Fails WP:NPOL. Small town politician. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:26, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:26, 14 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Boyce LA is not large enough to confer an automatic presumption of notability on its mayors, but the article is not referenced well enough to get him over WP:NPOL #2. The fact that some local media coverage exists is not in and of itself a free notability pass for a mayor — every mayor of everywhere can always show some local coverage in the local media, so the notability test for smalltown mayors requires evidence of much wider coverage than just the expected local stuff. Five of the ten "references" here are primary sources (raw tables of election results) or blogs, which are not support for notability at all — and the five that are media coverage are all purely local media coverage of his death itself, rather than substantive career coverage of his accomplishments in office, so they aren't clinching anything either. A mayor is not automatically notable enough for an encyclopedia article just because the local newspaper reported his death. Bearcat (talk) 17:41, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Patrick seems to be more than just a local politician. Jet magazine reported that he was a multi-time officer with the National Conference of Black Mayors. The Town Talk wrote of Patrick "Julius Patrick Elementary: Julius Patrick was once principal of the Alexandria elementary school that bears his name today as well as North Bayou Rapides. He served the community in capacities other than as an educator, including when he became the first black mayor of Boyce. Patrick also served as president and vice president of the National Conference of Black Mayors for Louisiana, and chairman of the International Committee for the Transportation of Technology to Third World Countries. He met with presidents George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton to advise them on policies affecting small cities and schools." --TM 18:51, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * A smalltown mayor isn't automatically notable enough for Wikipedia just because the school board named a school after him — at least half of everybody who's ever been mayor of anywhere would be exempted from having to clear our notability standard for mayors if "something in the city got named after him" were an automatic notability freebie in and of itself. And everything else in that description still only counts as notability claims if he can show that he got media coverage, expanding beyond just the purely local, for it — one blurb in a local newspaper listicle about all the namesakes of all the area schools is not enough coverage all by itself to turn those into inclusion-clinching notability claims. Bearcat (talk)
 * I think you should read the entire quote. He was a multi-term leader of a national civil and political rights organization. I am intrigued by the the International Committee for the Transportation of Technology to Third World Countries as well. Given Wikipedia's systematic bias against non-white people, I think we should take this into account when nominating and discussing deletions.--TM 10:17, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Still requires hard evidence of actual reliable source coverage about his work in that role, not just technical verification of it in a listicle-blurb in his hometown newspaper. Bearcat (talk) 14:51, 16 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails NPOL, all coverage is hyperlocal; typical Billy Hathorn local or non-independent obituary sourcing. Reywas92Talk 21:28, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete While I do think that TM does bring some valid points, the current sourcing doesn't support GNG. If someone were to be able to find stronger sources, I'd most likely say keep. Even if deleted, I wouldn't mind seeing the article rewritten. Best, GPL93 (talk) 11:42, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete just because his being killed while in office gave a little more than normal coverage it is not enough to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:17, 20 April 2019 (UTC)


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