Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/July 2017 Petah Tikva attack


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to 2017 Temple Mount crisis. If you said Merge, but didn't specify which of the multiple possible merge targets you thought it should be merged into, please consider yourself a member of the WP:Association of people who make life more difficult for closing admins than it has to be. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:47, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

July 2017 Petah Tikva attack

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WP:NOTNEWS Article is about a small scale stabbing attack in Israel.JBergsma1 (talk) 23:13, 26 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge into List of violent incidents in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, July–December 2017. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 12:18, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:42, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:42, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Palestine-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:42, 24 July 2017 (UTC)


 * The article is important bacause it is part of a new, ongoing crisis in the Temple Mount (the attacker even told he did the attack for Al-Aqsa). The crisis includes up to now five events: the 2017 Temple Mount shooting, the protests against the placing of metal detectors in the Mount, the 2017 Halamish stabbing attack, the 2017 attack on the Israeli Embassy in Amman and the current attack. I think we should make sure that the crisis will be well documented ThePagesWriter (talk) 13:10, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I understand, although the incident could be considered as an act of terrorism, I think it's too small in scale to write an article about it. I think instead it should be included in the article about the Temple Mount crisis.JBergsma1 (talk) 14:31, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * That's a good argument for writing a single article about the Fourth Intifada or the Second al-Aqsa Intifada or whatever it will come to be called, not for keeping stub articles about each incident in the intifada. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 14:27, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * So the article January 2016 Paris police station attack and the article 2017 Bishop International Airport incident should be deleted. Also just one wounded. I remind you - israel is also an western country. In addition, Attacks within Israel itself (1967 borders) occurs much less than the West Bank, this is not a 'regular' stabbing/ramming in the West Bank.
 * Please try to read more carefully. Neither of us has recommended deleting the article, just merging it into a larger article. Not every battle in a war warrants an article of its own, nor does every attack against an Israeli. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 14:46, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect per Shawn in Montreal Arthistorian1977. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 14:27, 24 July 2017 (UTC) corrected — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 14:57, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge - I think its too early to tell what will happen with this, but as of right now it can't support its own article. However, I would say this should merge into the aftermath section of 2017 Temple Mount shooting 2017 Temple Mount crisis, with a mention on List of violent incidents in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, July–December 2017, without prejudice for recreation if more comes available later. -  Galatz Talk  15:06, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - The page name should be 2017 Petah Tikva attack not July 2017 Petah Tikva attack -  Galatz Talk  19:53, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge - Although the incident fits within the recent Temple Mount crisis and Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it is too small in noteworthiness for an article on itself. JBergsma1 (talk) 15:40, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 *  Undecided ,(changing to redirect, below) as it is usually wise to wait a day or two after an event happens before rushing any article to   deletion.  However, if a Redirect/Merge makes sense it should certainly be redirected to 2017 Temple Mount crisis. (It should of course also be added to List of violent incidents in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, July–December 2017). E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:35, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect - It is actually wiser to wait a day or two before creating an article on a current event. It is too minor of an incident to necessitate a standalone article.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 19:51, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to 2017 Temple Mount crisis per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:LASTING. It does not seem to be a candidate for merging to List of violent incidents in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, July–December 2017 because that article is a list of articles (about notable incidents), as opposed to a detailed list that meets WP:LISTN.- MrX 20:59, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Do you not feel it could be merged into 2017 Temple Mount crisis, which already has a section on it? -  Galatz Talk  21:07, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, yes that would be a good merge target. Amended my !vote accordingly.- MrX 21:10, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * There's not much to merge. This can be covered in a sentence. The salient details are already available at List of violent incidents in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, July–December 2017. I'm curious to know why editors have so much difficulty honestly reporting what all the sources state, i.e.,a Palestinian illegal stabbed a Palestinian Israeli. Nope, we must say 'Israeli civilian' and erase the victim's ethnicity. Pretty much what is going on in the Israel-unique-victim-of-Palestinian terror-articles being vigorously plashed all over wiki in the last week, with editors ignoring the extensive contexts (1,050 Palestinians injured at the same time, 15 killed in July).Nishidani (talk) 14:54, 25 July 2017 (UTC)


 *  Redirect  with selective merge to 2017 Temple Mount crisis, coverage was extensive, and this is therefore a likely search term.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:46, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - Notable since this was essentially a friendly fire incident, which is rare in such a one on one attack (and not a mass bombing or shooting). Thus, I suspect there will be continuing coverage/mentions. Note, this is the sort of deletion discussion where waiting would've made sense (I three months from now, assessing the continuing impact of this event (which did receive wide enough coverage to begin with) will be clearer).Icewhiz (talk) 10:34, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Undecided Interesting point. There was some impact on security measures as Israel clamped down on letting Palestinians cross out of PA controlled areas.  Coverage was international, and national coverage included multiple  feature stories;  photos of the pizza store owner holding the large pizza tray that he used to ward off the attacker.  WP:TROUT to Nom [[User:JBergsma1 who should learn to sign his comments.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:39, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. JBergsma1 (talk) 23:13, 26 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge into 2017 Temple Mount crisis.GreyShark (dibra) 14:15, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep: This attack was a separate incident, that was related to, influenced by, and influenced the 2017 Temple Mount crisis. Given that the attack took place at a different location, and none of the 3 principal people mentioned (the bus driver, the assailant, and the pizza maker) were directly involved controversy surrounding the Temple Mount terror attack or the installation of metal detectors, I don't really think this should be lumped into one article. On the other hand, given that at the present there are zero "delete" votes, it looks like there is at least a consensus that this article is noteworthy enough to warrant inclusion in Wikipedia. OtterAM (talk) 20:01, 30 July 2017 (UTC)


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