Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jum sum


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 21:41, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Jum sum

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I have been unable to locate significant coverage of this article's subject. The article itself refers to it as "almost forgotten", which further calls into question whether or not it is the subject of substantial secondary coverage. Andrew327 17:06, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:43, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:44, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. What concerns me most is the fact that Google searches for either "Hongo Book Company" or "Lo Zu, Jill" return zero hits if "Jum sum" is excluded, so at best it is not a reliable source. GregorB (talk) 18:44, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * After being unable to find any information about the cited book in WorldCat, I have tagged it as a possible hoax. Andrew327 19:12, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. It's almost certainly a hoax. Ducknish (talk) 22:24, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - The article has been translated into Portuguese, which should also be deleted. FallingGravity (talk) 08:36, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Good catch, what should be done with the translated article? Is there a way of pushing foreign language messages?  Andrew327 18:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment. There are actually a lot of obscure old Chinese folk gods, so I wouldn't rule this out.  I don't speak Chinese, but someone who does should probably look at this before we delete it; the Chinese name seems to be literally "Pillow God", and the Chinese character name gets numerous google hits (alternatively, these may be referring to the Jade Pillow/Third occipital nerve in traditional Chinese medicine).  Magic pillows do actually have a place in Taoist folklore, as in some versions of Lü Dongbin.  Also, there appears to be a "pillow spirit" character in the recent pop culture A Pillow Case of Mystery--Pharos (talk) 18:45, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete A Google search for the name in Chinese doesn't turn up anything that describes it as a god in folklore. Even if it were authentic, it doesn't appear to be notable, and there's too little to work with to create an article that satisfies WP:V without further sources anyway. wctaiwan (talk) 03:52, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I'd very much like to hear what the creator has to say about it. I see that he's autopatrolled, so AGF should go pretty far on this one, seeing as if this is a hoax then we're in "go through all of his contribs, pull his rights, and maybe block him" territory. — PinkAmpers  &#38;  ( Je vous invite à me parler )  06:29, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * To be clear, I am not casting aspersion on a terrific editor, especially not for a 7 year old article. Even good editors can fall for hoaxes and put them on Wikipedia.  I also want input on the theory that it is a hoax, which is why I am going through AFD instead of Speedy Deletion.  What really matters, though, is that this article does not appear to meet WP:N and nobody has proposed keeping it.  Andrew327 16:17, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.