Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jumper 2: The War Begins


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The result was   delete. NW ( Talk ) 20:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Jumper 2: The War Begins

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Hoax and WP:CRYSTAL. A google search provides no results for the movie. Mr.TrustWorthyTalk to Me! 19:12, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, probably speedy as db-hoax. In fact, I'll tag it to see what happens.  Interesting note, the article already reports gross revenues for a movie that doesn't even exist.  Considering how well Jumper did in the theaters (not at all well, from what I understand), I highly doubt that there will be a sequel. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 21:11, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - article's infobox was simply copied from the original film. Definite hoax. -- Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 21:16, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete There may or may not be a possible Jumpers sequel apparently; however this ain't it. Created by a sock account of a serial spoofer. FlowerpotmaN &middot;( t ) 21:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've removed the speedy tag, as it isn't a hoax so blatant that it constitutes vandalism. Might as well let this AfD take care of it now it's up and running. Steve  T • C 22:29, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment As a sequel is plausible in itself, the article might not be a hoax blatant enough to constitute vandalism, but given the creator's track record - 17 socks known and a history of creating either completely bogus articles or creating articles that are based on real projects and filling them with false information, and then vandalising actor articles to include these projects - it is hard to view the article as anything other than a deliberate attempt to misinform. An assumption of good faith on the part of the article creator has long since left the building in this case. If the subject deserves an article, and in this case if a sequel is made it will certainly get an article, then for the sake of accuracy, it would be better to delete this and wait for a bona fide attempt at creating an article.  FlowerpotmaN &middot;( t ) 15:17, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * All good points, it's just that in this case, the hoaxer appears to have created a legitimate article almost by accident. The film is "announced" (whether it will ever be made remains to be seen) and much of the information in this article pretty much correct (director, cast, etc.) Indeed, mild tweaks to the infobox and a few other details would bring it up to scratch. As such, I saw no harm in letting this AfD snowball instead. Steve  T • C 15:25, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, but unfortunately the assertions in these articles are integrated into other articles rather swiftly by other editors acting in good faith, by linkage or in other ways, without these editors realizing that they are spoofs. Apart from reverting the obvious, I have had to detangle a few filmography tables and looking at the various sock contributions, there is a lot to do. Generally I don't go for an appeal for snow on principle, especially if there is even a smidgen of an attempt to improve the encyclopedia, but even if he (or she) has almost struck on a actual real article by accident, the collateral damage-in-waiting might mean more work down the line. (Although on a personal note: when did I become such a hard-ass;)?   FlowerpotmaN &middot;( t ) 16:00, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NFF; I think the producers of the original film had more in mind, but it's way too early in the process to have an article. Contain any sequel information at Jumper (film). — Erik  (talk • contrib) 20:50, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
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