Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jumping out of windows


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The result was   merge to defenestration. \ Backslash Forwardslash / (talk) 01:16, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Jumping out of windows

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Content fork from suicide methods; neither subject matter nor content strikes me as encyclopedic. Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  22:45, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Also considerably duplicates/overlaps defenestration. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  22:46, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Really? This is an encyclopedic article? I don't think so. I agree it should be put into a section on suicides, but not this. Also note that defenestration is when someone else thtows you out a window, not when you yourself jump. They are different. User:Nezzadar (speak) 22:52, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Acts of jumping out of windows should be included somewhere, and wherever it is should be either a part of defenestration or linked to defenestration. As for defenestration itself, the etymology suggests that the emphasis should be put on "out of a window", and not necessarily how the object or person came to leave the window towards the ground. &mdash; Rickyrab | Talk 23:00, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Moreover, this article should be fixed up, not deleted, if the only complaint is its lack of encyclopedicness. Otherwise, your argument seems to boil down to WP:IDONTLIKEIT. &mdash; Rickyrab | Talk 23:02, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Either keep or include as part of Defenestration. Consensus on the Defenestration page kept me from including notable incidents of people jumping out of windows in the defenestration article, leading me to create a new article concerning the jumping of people out of windows. There are a number of reasons why I felt this subject belonged on defenestration, but there was strong opposition on that article's talk page, due to people regarding defenestration as merely the act of throwing people or things out of windows, even though jumping from a window is an act of throwing oneself from a window. &mdash;  Rickyrab | Talk 22:53, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Smerge into defenestration. Grutness...wha?  23:01, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge as above - we don't need this article any more than we would need driving a motorcycle above and beyond motorcycle or eating corn above and beyond corn. - DustFormsWords (talk) 23:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd probably move it to "Suicide by jumping" so it can more broadly include jumping from roofs, bridges, aircraft, etc. — CharlotteWebb 14:17, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge with defenestration is fine providing that instances of jumping out windows is not introduced there. The "thrown" part is integral to the concept of defenestration, as evidenced by it's alternative definition meaning to be forcibly removed from a position (e.g.: OhNo itsJamie  Talk 18:44, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * What content, then, would you merge (given the exact scope of this article about jumping out of windows)? I don't follow. — CharlotteWebb 19:59, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * All of the events in the "Notable acts in history" section would be fine with the exception of the Sept 11th and Triangle Shirtwaist items (as in each of the other cases, there was suspicion that the individual was forced out of the window by another hand). This is the current consensus at Talk:Defenestration that Rickyrab alluded to.  I don't see the usefulness of any of the items in the "Fiction" section.  OhNo itsJamie  Talk 20:14, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That's not really a merge with "defenestration", that's a hidden "delete" vote, and the act of jumping out of a window is either a notable form of defenestration or a notable phenomenon in its own right. Since consensus at Talk:Defenestration opposed including acts of jumping out of windows, I created the article on "Jumping out of windows". Ohnoitsjamie's idea (and, indeed, Talk:Defenestration consensus) fail to solve the problem concerning self-defenestration, which is the act of someone throwing oneself out of a window. &mdash; Rickyrab | Talk 20:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC) Hmmm..."According to Hernando County, Fla., sheriff's deputies, the victim was driving home when he noticed someone lean out of a window and throw something, reported the St. Petersburg Times." Does that count as a defenestration?  &mdash;  Rickyrab | Talk 20:21, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Whatever you call it, it's preserving the existing consensus at Defenestration. OhNo itsJamie Talk 20:24, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
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