Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/June 2017 Melbourne attack


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The result was speedy keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:37, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

June 2017 Melbourne attack

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Every police incident is not notable and is WP:NOTNEWS. Creator (who is new) has dubious additions too Lihaas (talk) 00:26, 6 June 2017 (UTC) Lihaas (talk) 00:28, 6 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - Islamic Terrorism is still quite rare in Australia and the police shooting someone dead after an attack like this is definitely a notable event Murchison-Eye (talk) 00:42, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * There is no source considering it so. (or at least one the page) Further new/old doesnt constitute notability and that is POV/CRYSTALBALL/SYNTHESIS.Lihaas (talk) 00:48, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 01:22, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 01:22, 6 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - Its clearly notable as its getting a lot media coverage in Australia. although the investigators are open-minded about whether terrorism was the trigger for the shootout, it appears that it is based on the evidence now that it is a terrorist attack. The police have stated that they are treating the siege as a terrorist incident and attack. The guy that did it is known to counter terrorist although they have also stated BernardZ (talk)
 * Wait, too difficult to make a determination on lower-profile events like this one this early. ansh 666 02:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Holsworthy Barracks terror plot is notable, this is one of the 2009 terrorists.-- Callinus (talk) 02:15, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - Terrorist incident or not, kidnappings and gun related crime is comparatively rare in Australia. The incident also has a fair deal of coverage so far. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 03:23, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete or Redirect to List of terrorist incidents in June 2017 per WP:NOTNEWS. The only arguments I see above are opinions and a reference to article x. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:51, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment The information and references in this article are relevant to existing articles such as Holsworthy Barracks terror plot. If the outcome of this discussion is delete, I'd ask the information be merged before doing so. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 04:15, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - Considering there are 5 casualties, along with significant international media reporting on the attack, Islamic State has even claimed responsibility for it. So clearly an important event.--Luckyowl10 (talk) 04:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep for now. May have terrorism link, too soon to delete at present. WWGB (talk) 06:26, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - Very notable because it relates to a serious policy discussion about bail laws and how those with very long, consistent histories of crime and terrorism links, are frequently released on bail. Rumours of 40 priors (TBC). This is a very active topic of discussion in Australia. It does great harm to efforts to build a tolerant, multicultural society, if reasonable controls against known criminals aren't enforced. Deletion of this would contribute to censorship of that discussion, risks being seen as politically opinionated suppression and is not in Wikipedia's interests. (I would note that suppression of *reasonable* social discussion, is also giving rise to vigilantism and propensity for the hardening of right-wing votes against 'alt-left' suppression of such issues). 14.200.91.233 (talk) 06:31, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - This terrorist incident was big in Australia. It may be "insignificant" to world's standards, but it's a big deal in this country. Australia doesn't get terrorist attacks everyday anyway - We had three such incidents in the last two years (including this one), and the casualties were not above 2. Whether they had 2 deaths or 200, this is still a terrorist attack, and it should be noted, especially being in Australia. Meganesia (talk) 05:07, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per 's and 's comments. (58.164.100.14 (talk) 08:05, 6 June 2017 (UTC))
 * Keep along the same reasoning as other keep votes -- Whats new?(talk) 09:44, 6 June 2017 (UTC)


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