Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Junior's unofficial mascot owl


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The result was   delete. Big Dom  13:54, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Junior's unofficial mascot owl

 * Note: This article has been nominated for rescue. Jeremy Wordsworth (talk) 10:08, 16 March 2011 (UTC)


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The player himself is of course notable, and so is the incident, as it has much news coverage. However the owl itself does not have secondary source coverage established. TYelliot &#124;  Talk  &#124;  Contribs  17:38, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Club Oranje T 19:58, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  — Club Oranje T 19:58, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  — Club Oranje T 19:58, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete the incident is much better covered (and well referenced) in Luis Moreno (footballer), while this hopeless substub can't even get the basic facts right: "Junior's unofficial mascot owl is an owl which was the official mascot..." Huh? Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  18:39, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Excuse me, but who are you calling "hopeless"? You are Deliberately misquoting the title - It reads "Junior's unofficial mascot owl is an owl which is...". This seems to be the standard format for articles on here - eg, "The Great Grey Owl or Lapland Owl, Strix nebulosa, is a very large owl, distributed...". As for the argument that it is the owls in general which are the unofficial mascots rather than this specific owl - clearly this owl is one of these mascots, thus is a mascot. The owls are not what they seem! Jeremy Wordsworth (talk) 10:05, 16 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Owl was not listed on the team card, therefore cannot be said to have played in this game, therefore fails WP:NFOOTBALL subject specific criteria. Owl has not received in-depth coverage to satisfy WP:GNG requirements, in fact does not seem to have received any coverage at all outside this WP:ONEEVENT. Wikipedia is not WP:MEMORIAL, Owl's involvement is more than adequately covered at Luis Moreno (footballer) and the current title is an unlikely redirect so delete rather than merge.-- Club Oranje T 19:58, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - There is no evidence that the dead owl meets any of our notability requirements. Also, the article is misleading when it states that the dead owl was the unofficial mascot of the club - other sources report that all of the owls living in the stadium are unofficial mascots of the club. Jogurney (talk) 23:11, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable owl which fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. The subject receives sufficient coverage at Luis Moreno (footballer). Argyle 4 Life  talk  04:31, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - owl is not notable in its own right and the incident is suitably covered in the player's article. For the record, "owl-kicking incident" must be one of the best subheadings ever on a WP article :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:38, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep This owl is more notable than a small entry on the footballer who kicked it! Jill Dando is more notable than whoever killed her! John Lennon is more notable than Mark Chapman! SAVE THE OWL. Jeremy Wordsworth (talk) 10:07, 16 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - woah. Reminds me of the time when I was sixteen or seventeen, and had been to a friend's party. I'd got quite drunk, and so me & another friend decided to walk the eight miles home, rather than crash on the floor. About halfway home, my friend found a dead owl in a layby, and stupidly kicked it. Does that poor owl deserve an article? We could call it something like The dead owl that GiantSnowman's friend once kicked while drunk...GiantSnowman 12:54, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Something tells me that your friend kicking a dead owl was not reported in any news sources. So no, it doesn't. As regards Junior's unofficial mascot owl, that is an entirely different affair, and there are hundreds of news articles about this poor owl. Your argument is full of mess-ups. Jeremy Wordsworth (talk) 14:11, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * There have not been any news articles about the owl. There have been hundreds of news articles about an incident involving the owl, which is quite different -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:40, 16 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete or merge to team or individual player article. --Chuunen Baka (talk  • contribs) 14:53, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - delete, although I guess a merge to the team would be fine as long as it isn't given undue weight in the article. Yaksar (let's chat) 17:02, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge, redirect or delete. Whatever the case this does not merit a standalone article, and it would be unprofessional to have this standing alone. It's not notable in itself and the incident is covered well in the article about the football player, where it rightly belongs.--X sprainpraxisL (talk) 19:03, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - this is an un-named owl, one of many at the stadium, and therefore cannot be considered notable. Scarecrow47 (talk) 19:58, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete Not notable, but the facts could go in team or player article, but briefly. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:58, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
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