Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Junior Juniper


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Mainly per the improvements to the article since the AFD opened which has now satisfied the notability requirements. See old and current version. (non-admin closure) Steven Zhang  The clock is ticking....  11:33, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Junior Juniper

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Of the current sources used in this article, only four are secondary sources. The first two of these are citations from the same comic art auction magazine series and only briefly mention the character in passing. The third secondary source is a website that does not appear to be reliable. The fourth secondary source again only mentions this character very briefly. A further search for reliable secondary sources reveals an insufficient amount of significant coverage to justify an article on Wikipedia. This article fails Wikipedia's notability guidelines for fictional characters. Neelix (talk) 18:57, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. The character is notable because it is the first major character to find death in a Marvel comic, it has an impact on the series Sgt. Fury and the Howling Commandos. He is a founder member of the Howling Commandos. He has some appearances in the main continuity and he has three apparitions in alternate universes. Even if the character has died, he continues to make some apparitions in comic books with flashbacks like Dark Reign: New Nation #1 (2009). With the announcement of the film Captain America: The First Avenger, the name was given among the description of the Howling Commandos. The article suggests that it could be, like some members of the Howling Commandos, presented in the film. The sources are difficult to find due to the main period 1960's. About the secondary sources described by the nominator, in my opinion, they allow to verify the information provided by the article and the notability. About the comic art auction, passing mention in a description of three sentences of a comic book is quite good for me. The website in question is reliable, read TwoMorrows Publishing and the information on Jack Kirby Collector. The two paragraphs of the fourth secondary source cover the information given in the article about the death of the character. The external link  which has been credited as a source by Marvel in their Marvel Monsters volume, allows also to check some information given in the article.--Crazy runner (talk) 23:06, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The character has an entry in Marvel Legacy: The 1960's Handbook (2006) and one in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A to Z HC vol. 6 (2008).--Crazy runner (talk) 18:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * One more source: "This is the first time a main character has actually died in a Marvel Comic, I think. And this isn't your typical "dead-but-really-not-dead" kind of thing. This is war and Junior's dead. He ain't coming back." --Crazy runner (talk) 20:05, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 13:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 13:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: The article has been improved since its nomination.--Crazy runner (talk) 20:24, 6 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep per Crazy runner, or merge into List of minor Marvel Comics characters. BOZ (talk) 16:01, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.