Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jur P. van den Berg


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The result was   keep. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 01:34, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Jur P. van den Berg

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Multiple complainants on talk page are correct--this assistant prof is non-notable. Their opinions should be added to this debate, should the closing admin have any doubts. Deprodded, alas. Abductive (reasoning) 22:07, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Link to Google Scholar Seems to have written articles that are cited by others. Seems to have a reasonable h-index that suggest passing criterion 1 of Notability (academics). By the way: the de-prodding was 3.5 years ago, most of complains are even older. Jarkeld (talk) 23:44, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Please, his h-index number of 25 is shockingly low for his field. Take as a counter-examples Sebastian Thrun, with an h of 116 by your same tool, or Nick Jennings (computer scientist) with an h of 103. Or do I have to list all the professors of robotics and artificial intelligence to make my case? Abductive  (reasoning) 01:02, 26 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep&mdash;Pulling out two not-particularly-random samples isn't helpful. Here's an incomplete list of CS academics with h>=40.  I think we can lower the bar to include more than these folks.  I'm told the rule-of-thumb for CompSci departments in tier-1 research universities is h>=20 to become a full professors.  That's an arbitrary line (and I'm sure it's higher at Harvard and lower at UGeorgia), but I think it reliably shows significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources.  Lesser Cartographies (talk) 14:06, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Then why is he still an assistant professor? I'm sure you have no answer that wouldn't lead people to think you meant "delete".  Abductive (reasoning) 16:33, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * No, I meant keep. There may be several reasons that a star assistant professor isn't offered early tenure, ranging from the dean not having an additional budget line at the moment to political considerations within the department.  If you want to make an argument that assistant professors are inherently non-notable, I'd be interested to hear it.  I think your stronger argument would be to focus on the section of WP:ACADEMIC that I quoted above:  show me how a 20+ h-index is not a significant impact on their discipline.  Lesser Cartographies (talk) 17:58, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Weak keep. I think it's a little WP:TOOSOON, this is a high-citation field, and all but one of his high-citation papers has a much more notable co-author (the exception being the ICRA 2006 one). But this looks to me like the record of someone on the cusp of being promoted from assistant to associate at a good research university, and I think already demonstrates enough impact for WP:PROF. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:13, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. H index of 25 satisfies WP:PROF. James500 (talk) 03:39, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
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