Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Just Future For Palestine Flotilla (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Blockade of the Gaza Strip. T. Canens (talk) 03:37, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Just Future For Palestine Flotilla
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Unsourced, and probably not notable. Alex.osheter (talk) 21:16, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep it is sourced with 27 refs and although a lot of them are self sourced there are some independent ones such as New Zealand Herald, Times of Israel and Reuters. I remember this event received a lot of coverage in the UK including the BBC, Channel 4 and broadsheets such as The Guardian and The Telegraph that had secondary coverage, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 21:26, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * 37 refs of which 34 are primary sources, 1 is a blog, and the remaining 2 describe a single event on October 26 2018. This event is better suited for Blockade of the Gaza Strip. Alex.osheter (talk) 21:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. The New Zealand Herald and The Times of Israel are reliable sources, and their coverage is enough to establish notability. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 23:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete or Smerge The article has a couple of reliable sources, but they aren't about the flotilla itself, they're about an even that may or may not be notable. I personally don't think the event fits WP:EVENT. It did not have any lasting effects that I can find, the geographical scope is very small, it was only covered for a couple of days, and was not covered in much depth. There's an argument to be made about the notability of the event, but as far as the flotilla itself having its own Wikipedia page, it's not notable enough. Alex.osheter (talk) 23:25, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  94rain  Talk 01:25, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 12:18, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Palestine-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 12:18, 16 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect or very selective merge to Blockade of the Gaza Strip (or is there a list article for such attempts? There are quite a few attempts). Fails WP:NEVENT due to lack of WP:SUSTAINED coverage. While the article has been WP:REFBOMBed - the vast majority are page from the jfp.freedomflotilla.org website and a few other unreliable sources (e.g. wordpress blog). Other than that - there is a smattering of rather minute NEWSORG coverage from July-August 2018. Icewhiz (talk) 12:23, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect or Delete Falls WP:GNG.The only that maybe notable is boarding event but this fails WP:NOTNEWS and doesn't meet any criteria of WP:EVENTCRIT all other source are primary sources that cannot satisfy WP:GNG.--Shrike (talk) 19:44, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect...  perhaps we could have an article entitled, Post 2010 flotillas to Gaza, or similar.  There is a brief account of a 2011 flotilla inappropriately in  Blockade of the Gaza Strip that could be added to such a page.  Point is that Blockade of the Gaza Strip happened.  so 2010 makes a logical date for these 3 later, less publicized flotillas, including the 2016 Women's Boat to Gaza.  Sourcing available to keep this as  a stand-along page is not sufficient. And the page reads as a sort of promotion for long lists of non-notable individual participants.  We have larger political demonstrations every day in many cities, but we do not create articles on brief, ROUTINE coverage that of small, WP:MILL demonstrations like this one. E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * sources: New Zealand Herald: Unite Union leader Mike Treen reportedly tasered repeatedly by Israeli military the article takes a skeptical tone from the headline on, "union leader was reportedly tasered ," and is not SIGCOV of the incident.  the times of Israel article  is SIGCOV, but, is this all there is?   Everything else on the page is PRIMARY.  We  need more sources to establish notability.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:02, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * And per WP:NEVENT - WP:SUSTAINED coverage to show this event had any sort of WP:LASTING effect. All we have is from around the event itself.Icewhiz (talk) 20:10, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete It has plenty of 'sources' but if you examine them, they are primary or are insufficient to assert notability. Enigmamsg 15:00, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - not notable, as most sources by far are primary. Does not meet WP:GNG.  XavierItzm (talk) 15:56, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep subject easily meets WP:GNG with substantial mainstream news coverage. The New Zealand Herald, The Times of Israel and I just added The GuardianG are reliable sources, and their coverage is enough to establish notability.  Lubbad85   (☎) 19:03, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect or Merge; to Blockade of the Gaza Strip or Blockade of the Gaza Strip Enough there to keep, but it is basically a single event by an organized coalition.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 21:19, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note that 7&6=thirteen appears not to have looked at the page before offering an opinion, because this protest happened in 2018, making it ineligible for merging into a section on events between 2007 - 2010.  Political developments that occurred in 2010 make it inappropriate to extent that section to 2018.E.M.Gregory (talk) 02:12, 22 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per Icewhiz and Enigma. I personally don't think there's enough to merge. - GretLomborg (talk) 21:38, 21 May 2019 (UTC)


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