Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Justice 4 All Women & Children


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The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 17:15, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Justice 4 All Women & Children

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Subject fails WP:NONPROFIT and WP:GNG. A WP:BEFORE search, of the newspapers of record in Ireland, return only trivial passing mentions. For example, a search of the Irish Times across variants of the organisation's name ("Justice 4 All Women & Children"/"Justice 4 All Women and Children"/"Justice for All Women & Children") returns just one result. Namely this news article. Which is substantively about another topic and in which the subject gets only a trival passing mention. Even a Google search returns just 10 results. One of which is the newly created Wikipedia article. The links and references in the article itself also do not support the claimed text. And most do not relate to (and most do not even mention) the subject of this article. In that sense, WP:REFBOMBING is a significant concern. There are also WP:COI, WP:SOAPBOX and similar concerns. All raised directly with the article's creator over the last several months. Guliolopez (talk) 15:45, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 15:48, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:51, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

I’ve read the guidelines on organisations and would you not agree the organisation is a interest group in which hasbeen named and noted by the named reliable sources? It’s a article about a interest group created by marginalised women with credible sources. It also says in the guidelines we should not be bias of larger organisations, over smaller ones who find it hard to obtain notice even more so if it’s apart of a marginalised group in which Irish Traveller women and survivors of abusive institutions are. The article doesn’t qualify for deletion, it needs modification.

The group has and contributes to the below stated in the guidelines Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies):

It has had “significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources.”

It has “effects on culture, society, history, literature, education.”

“Large organizations and their products are likely to have more readily available verifiable information from reliable sources that provide evidence of notability. However, smaller organizations and their products can be notable, just as individuals can be notable.”

“Simply stated, an organization is a group of more than one person formed together for a purpose. This includes commercial and non-commercial activities, such as charitable organizations, political parties, hospitals, institutions, interest groups, social clubs, companies, partnerships, proprietorships, for-profit educational institutions or organizations, etc.“

WP:Interest group

— Preceding unsigned comment added by WIKIBB2020 (talk • contribs) 22:11, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails NORG/GNG. Is this even a real organization? I can't locate a website outside a blog on wordpress. No mentions in the news. Seems like it is just a Facebook group or something similar. WP:NOTYELLOWPAGES etc. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:18, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. I can understand grassroots but we'll need to see some grass growing before we can accept the roots for reals. Article creator seems more interested in removing maintenance tags than fixing problems. Elizium23 (talk) 08:59, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

There is more than enough for this article in which meets with community standards.

Other articles here have been left without not even one citation since 2009, in which I’ve come to correct recently. However the article was allowed to remain for so many years with just a warning of no citations.

There is currently more than enough within the article and for this organisation to meet the WP:GNG

The Wikipedia community is lacking within Diversity towards Irish Travellers. So it would be a massive shame to see a notable organisation in which meets the WP:GNG deleted as it would highlighted the use and suppression of The last acceptable form of racism. Because instead of working upon a topic noted by reliable 2nd sources about a organisation lead by marginalised Traveller women, the first thought is to delete, while articles among here has been left untouched.


 * Redirect to Laura Angela Collins - the references are trivial mentions or don't even mention the group at all. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 20:06, 17 November 2020 (UTC)


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