Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Justin Packshaw


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The result was   keep. I agree that the article needs some good clean up to make it sound not quite so promotional in tone. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:14, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Justin Packshaw

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Masses of claims for notability but no notability actually established. Not helped by a lack of in-line references. However the references quoted are much more a testimony to the business acumen of his wife in promoting their company and the willingness of the subject of the article to give promotional statements and interviews to whoever asks. That is certainly the impression given. One ref is a passing mention in somebody else's newspaper column (my good friend" Justin...", Another is an entry in a University alumni list, one is a dead link. A great exercise in self aggrandisement and promotion. I don't think Wikipedia deserves this  Velella  Velella Talk 14:05, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

16 December 2012 - This is an individual who has represented his country at Sailing, was involved in the first Gulf War as an Officer and now owns and runs his own business. Subsequently, he has led or been involved in expeditions to the Geographic and Magnetic North Pole, Climbed Mount Everest, sailed around the world and recently took three wounded British Soldiers to the Geographic South Pole celebrating the anniversary of Captain Scott's trip in 1912. Expeditions that he has been involved with have raised over £2.5 million pounds for charity. What a shame that you do not think that this warrants a place on Wikipedia - I know no one else to have done this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.93.152 (talk) 10:10, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cheers, Ri l ey    00:03, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Obvious vanity piece has just enough sustained editorial gunfire to cover this ex-soldier on his trip to Antartica. Passes WP:GNG. Could use some cleaning out of fluff for sure.--Nixie9 (talk) 04:36, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Probable Keep - A couple of the references mention events in which he participated but do not mention him in any way, yet others provide significant coverage. The Sunday Times article has some significant biographical coverage, and he is covered in BBC and Vogue. The article needs cleaned up... the references need to be utilized inline to support the content (and the article may be significantly changed by having to adhere to these conventions). But, I think this is an editing issue rather than a notability one. As per the Nom and others, there appears to be a motivated editor who should be able to adhere to policies with some guidance. 174.24.205.18 (talk) 04:59, 19 December 2012 (UTC) Celtechm (talk) 05:02, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
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