Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Justin Swandel (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 03:27, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Justin Swandel
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Delete. WP:BLP of a person notable only as a city councillor, in a city not internationally prominent enough to hand its city councillors an WP:NPOL pass. While consensus formerly accepted Winnipeg as a city that got its councillors into Wikipedia on the grounds that it was listed in the article on global city, that's more recently been deprecated because it was listed only in the "sufficiency" class of quasi-global cities and not as a true alpha, beta or gamma class world city. But what we have for sourcing here is not enough to get him over WP:GNG in lieu -- this is based on a small smattering of purely routine local coverage of the type that would be expected to exist for all city councillors in all cities. This is not enough to demonstrate a city councillor as more notable than the norm, which is the standard that Winnipeg's city councillors now have to meet. Bearcat (talk) 20:28, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 20:29, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Manitoba-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 20:29, 9 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails to meet WP:NPOL, is only known locally and does not appear to have received significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:57, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Actually, he does meet NPOL. What makes you think that he doesn't? Point 2 of NPOL - Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage. He's got many cites from a quick google search, including national coverage. Bangabandhu (talk) 01:53, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * That's not substantive national coverage of Swandel; it's a blurb published by the CBC's local news bureau in Winnipeg as routine local coverage of local politics, and doesn't even contain a mention of Swandel's name at all. Bearcat (talk) 14:42, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I got this confused with another entry nominated. I'll leave it in here so the thread makes sense and copy the reference to that page. But to your point, I think in this instance he's surely more notable than the average Winnipeg legislator as he was not only a councilor but also a Deputy Mayor. If he were only a councilor, with no references, I'd agree with the deletion. But here he's a deputy mayor and councilor with abundant references. And we still think he's not notable because Winnipeg is not global enough? Bangabandhu (talk) 18:01, 14 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete none of the coverage rises above what would be routine for a local politician.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:29, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * How did you arrive at that conclusion? Are you basing your assessment of "coverage" on the cites that appear in the article, or have you done an exhaustive search? Bangabandhu (talk) 15:31, 12 February 2017 (UTC)


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