Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Justin Tyler


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that this subject might be notable of the claims could be verified by reliable sources but none of the keep-!voters have demonstrated this to be the case.  So Why  13:15, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Justin Tyler

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No indication of any notability. No evidence for any association with "Chills" or "Down with Webster". No evidence that any of his own material has been notable. Earlier PROD removed by author with no improvement in establishing notability. Fails WP:GNG  Velella  Velella Talk 19:06, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

-Justin's name is listed on the Down With Webster album -There are photos of him with a platinum record indicating that he was indeed a part of the song: https://twitter.com/justintylerr/status/762694268813189120 Spiritualasf (talk) 19:10, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   19:13, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.   CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   19:13, 5 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - Subject lacks notability. If he did in fact win a platinum and this claim could be verified, then he'd be notable but, he didn't... Meatsgains (talk) 19:13, 5 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep The Platinum record that he did receive can be seen here in a photo as well: https://twitter.com/justintylerr/status/762694268813189120 - Zooming in allows you to see the certification from Music Canada. Spiritualasf (talk) 19:19, 5 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - Doesn't meet WP:N. -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 02:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Meets meet WP:N, clear evidence that this individual does indeed have a Platinum record. He is also working with big names. No reason for deletion. Crazisl12 (talk) 04:33, 6 May 2017 (UTC) ( — Crazisl12 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. )
 * Meeting or not meeting WP:N is a question of the quality of sourcing that can be provided to support the article. Nothing that an article can claim hands it a notability freebie in the absence of proper reliable sourcing for it. Bearcat (talk) 22:31, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:54, 8 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete, unless the sourcing receives a massive overhaul for reliability. A person does not pass WP:NMUSIC just because passage of NMUSIC is asserted — a person passes NMUSIC when the claim to passing NMUSIC is properly referenced to reliable source coverage in media. But what we have here is not the type of sourcing it takes to pass NMUSIC — it's sourced almost entirely to his own self-published presence on social networking platforms, with only a couple of blogs sprinkled on top and no evidence of real coverage in real media. Self-promotion is not the path to a Wikipedia article — media coverage is, but there's none being shown here at all. Bearcat (talk) 22:24, 8 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Reasons are nicely summarized by user Bearcat (talk)  above. Further, his role as 1 of 8 people given writer credit for the Platinum selling “Chills” does not change the fact that the documentation of the Music Canada award for that song was awarded to the group Down With Webster (https://musiccanada.com/gold-platinum/?fwp_gp_search=CHills ), regardless of whatever auxiliary presentations were put into frames and given to other personnel who were associated with it’s production (a not uncommon practice undertaken by a record company who generally pay an extra fee to the awarding entity to provide additional certificates.) ShelbyMarion (talk) 17:32, 9 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. Tyler is not a credited writer of that song. Claim of iTunes charting (a badchart anyway) is not supported by a source. A search found nothing good. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:38, 10 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep This individual is a known member of the Canadian music production industry. Aside from the 'Chills' debate above (which he is clearly involved in), he meets WP:N. I took a glance at his verified Facebook page, and during the time that 'Chills' came out, he certainly played a credible roll in the record(www.facebook.com/justintylermusic). MelissaBrownies (talk) 13:29, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Facebook is not a reliable source for Wikipedia content. A person gets a Wikipedia article by being the subject of reliable source coverage in media, not by having a self-published presence on social networking platforms. Bearcat (talk) 01:09, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   21:25, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - I'm not finding coverage in independent sources for this person to meet WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO.  Gongshow   talk  01:54, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - Agree with above, Doesn't meet WP:N Deathlibrarian (talk) 05:47, 13 May 2017 (UTC)


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