Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juzgados de Violencia sobre la Mujer


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Redirect to Spanish Courts for Violence against Women. WaltonOne 09:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Juzgados de Violencia sobre la Mujer

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Impossible to correct POV, Essay, Patent Nonsense Zape82 15:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Stubbify. These courts do appear to exist, and I found an Amnesty International report about them, but most of the sources I found were in Spanish, and my Spanish sucks.  I'd cut the POV ranting out and reduce the article to a stub explaining what the courts are, until someone who knows better Spanish wants to write an unbiased article.  -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:55, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - per POV and OR. Onnaghar talk.review 15:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Stubify - per FisherQueen. Onnaghar talk.review 16:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Just to clarify, Court Rooms specialized in violence against women, are courtrooms, belonging to the normal crimal courts circuits, existing in the Spanish judiciary, not independent courts as the article prtends to say.
 * Keep and move to an English language title like Spanish courts for violent offenses against women. The official and provided sources seem to confirm adequately that these courts exist.  As a feature of a country's judicial system, they seem surely notable.  POV and editing issues do not warrant deletion. - Smerdis of Tlön 16:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Rubén Mar. These Courts certainly exist, thanks for the reference to the Amnesty article, I´ll add the link and comments. There is a need for efficient protection for women, however, the problem we have is that the new laws really seem to directly conflict the human rights of a specif social group (men) and that issue needs to be addressed. There have been a number of complaints against men that were unfounded, and these men have suffered arrest and having their violations logged in a central registry before trials had been conducted. What is needed is a system that protects all citizens equally without prejudice.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubén Mar (talk • contribs) 16:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I see that you're a new editor here; you might find it helpful to read the neutral point of view guidelines, or if you prefer, Spanish Wikipedia's Punto de vista neutral guidelines]. Encyclopedia articles need to be completely factual, with no opinions, and this one is very seriously violating that guideline. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC


 * I agree on the Stubiffy and move parts but I think it should not be an article on the specialised courtrooms provided there is no article on the Spanish Judiaciary system, and move it to an artcle such as Organic Law on Comprehensive Measures to Erradicater Violence Against Women, explaining the law, and the general modifications to Spanish Legislation, such as the creation of such specialised courtrooms.Zape82 16:33, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Rubén Mar. I´ve tried to keep the article neutral, representing all views, however, the technical legal issues are not views; there are clear conflicts. I have ammended the text to avoid making statements, however, article 14 says all are equal in front of the law, and that is not the case, and this is a fact, no? Rubén Mar 16:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Rubén Mar. Please note that this article is aimed at providing a clear non-technical overview about these relatively new Courts in Spain, the reasons for their creation and the concerns raised largely by members of the Spanish legal profession, and the news from this month that the Spanish government wishes to see these or similar Courts adoped throughout Europe, and as such, this is an article that is aimed at the ordinary person, and should really not be discected and reduced or expanded into a full-blown legal review heavy with legal jargon that could make the article uncomprehendible to most citizens. I would not like to see professional lawyers, student lawyers or politicians edit this article heavily due to potential conflict of interests (I´m neither of these). I´d like to see (not that I have a view of course!) any relevant material added along the original aims of the article - its about this specific court, in Spain, and maybe soon near you! This is a community encyclopedia for all, right?!, so just some ideas! :) Rubén Mar 21:19, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Remember that this discussion is just for the question of whether this article meets Wikipedia's guidelines, or whether it should be deleted. More general discussion of how it could be developed goes on the article's own talk page, so as not to distract from the question at hand. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:31, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Rewrite and rename to an English name Subject definitely of encyclopedic notability--Victor falk 04:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Stubbify and rename to a mos appropiate name Maybe the law's name, definetly this name doesn't comply with the spanish court organisationZape82 10:19, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Its now called Spanish Courts for Violence against Women on the English language site. If or when its agreed, I can post a Spanish language version "Juzgados de violencia sobre Mujeres". Pls more advice, and "Stubbify"? Rubén Mar 18:23, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep the newly created English version and delete the old one. I have tagged the talk page of the new version to WP:LAW. Bearian 17:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC) no change Bearian 23:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per above Carter | Talk to me 07:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.