Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KARR (Knight Rider)


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The result was redirect to KITT. RL0919 (talk) 23:12, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

KARR (Knight Rider)

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Having just rescued KITT by adding the linked section there (and cutting a ton on fancruft and trivia from the bloated article), I submit that his KARR equivalent (KARR was the antagonist of the series that KITT was the "hero" of) is beyond rescue (it is a WP:PLOT summary in WP:FANCRUFT style, mostly unreferenced and it fails WP:GNG). In my research for KITT, KARR is mentioned in the sidenotes, generally as a plot summary, one article had a single sentence or two (but no detailed analysis) on how it was the "fearful" side of automation (KITT is "good AI" because it has a human friend, KARR is "bad AI" since it has no human oversight; interesting but not enough for its own article, maybe a footnote in the article about AI takeover or Existential risk from artificial general intelligence could be added; if anyone wants to work on this the mention I reference is here). Not sure if a redirect to KITT makes sense since that sections pretty bad and probably should go as well. PS. There is nothing to merge here - it's all plot summary, and effectively unreferenced to boot. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:57, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge to KITT. Notable info, but as the KITT page seems to be also a list of the various variant vehicles, this info is prolly better placed there. - jc37 03:14, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with KITT —¿philoserf? (talk) 08:00, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nominator's argument. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ambrosiawater (talk) 06:01, 16 August 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  12:50, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect - The topic does not have the sources necessary to stand alone at this time. TTN (talk) 15:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to KITT. A quick look at the nominated article seems to bear out the nominator's assertion that there is nothing to merge for a lack of proper sourcing, but I think it is reasonable to have a redirect for navigational purposes. There does exist some coverage of KARR, e.g. here, here, and here, but it seems to be mostly in relation to KITT, so it seems reasonable to cover KARR in the KITT article. I also agree with the nominator that the KITT section could use a complete overhaul. If that section is expanded enough (with proper sourcing) we could discuss splitting it off to a stand-alone article again, but for now this would seem to be the best solution. TompaDompa (talk) 15:38, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect To KITT, although it may be out of the scope of the KITT article since it's an entirely different character. Still, better than this mess of cruft.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:50, 29 August 2021 (UTC)


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