Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KF Çakrani


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The result was keep (non-admin closure) Rainbow unicorn (talk) 18:30, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

KF Çakrani

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Article's subject does not appear to meet the general notability guidelines. Article has no references to indicate notability, only two external links which do not provide in-depth coverage. KDS 4444 Talk  07:01, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - per WP:FOOTYN having played in the Albanian second division they have played in a national competition. Needs improving g not deleting. Fenix down (talk) 07:21, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  Human 3015   TALK    15:00, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions.  Human 3015   TALK    15:02, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * My understanding is that WP:FOOTYN is meant to provide editors with a handy guide to quickly assess whether or not a given football-related subject is likely to be notable— it doesn't supersede WP:GNG which still asks for references when someone calls for them, even for subjects that appear to meet WP:FOOTYN (or any other topic-specific guideline). The Albanian Wikipedia entry has the same quality and number of references as the English one, which to me merely proves the club exists, whatever its divisional ranking.  KDS 4444  Talk  06:26, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Fenix down (talk) 10:16, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. — Jkudlick t c s 11:44, 2 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment - - what reliable sources have you used to verify the cup claim? GiantSnowman 18:16, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * RSSSF records the following instances of the club participating in either the third tier of Albanian football (not the seocnd as the article claims) or in the national cup competition although, as is common with many clubs, there is a bit of difficulty searching easily because often the diacritics are not included in English language sources, being referred to as "Cakrani". They have competed in at least four seasons of third tier football and participated in the national cup in each of those seasons, reaching the second round in 2006. Per the general consensus achieved through AfD, this seems sufficient for me. Fenix down (talk) 18:43, 2 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - Played in a national cup Spiderone  08:41, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - Having played in a national cup means the club passes WP:FOOTYN. Research and translation to improve the article are required. I'd also like to point out to that WP:NFOOTY is also "a handy guide to quickly assess whether or not a given football-related subject is likely to be notable" and also does not supersede WP:GNG; plenty of articles on footballers who barely meet NFOOTY have been deleted because they did not build upon that to reach GNG. — Jkudlick t c s 12:19, 7 November 2015 (UTC)


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 * Interesting— my experience has been the exact opposite: that a player whose Wikipedia entry consists of nothing more than an infbox of his stats and a single external reference to the Internet page those stats come from and nothing more is basically untouchable. If you need examples of these, I can show you about 8,000.  KDS 4444  Talk  18:38, 7 November 2015 (UTC)