Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KKIN


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 21:12, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

KKIN
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Article is a dab page with 2 entries one of which is a redlink. The 2 stations on the page are in the same town and I'm pretty sure have alot more in common than they do differences. PROD was removed with the explanation that this is the "standard" dab page but, that doesn't make it anymore required or appropriate for this particular case. The "dab" should be deleted and both stations should be merged to this location. Jasynnash2 (talk) 10:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment No harm if it's kept or deleted. Forseeably, the same people who created the article KKIN (AM) would write an article about KKIN-FM.  An argument for keeping rather than redirecting is that the page also alerts a user to the existence and the frequency of both stations.  Mandsford (talk) 16:29, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * My understanding from previous similar things was that a see also note at the top is best when there are only two entries. Also, both KKINs are the same station, broadcasting a different format on each of its bandwidth assignments but, with crossover where applicable (| as seen here) and therefore doesn't require separate articles. Much better to have one really good article than 1 stub and a redlink.Jasynnash2 (talk) 08:00, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The redlink no longer exsists (page was made yesterday, 9/17) and WP:WPRS SOP is to create a disambig page for the two stations and not to have one article for both stations, see WDXE (among others). - NeutralHomer  •  Talk  19:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep: This is a disambig page for a radio station. This is standard MOS for WP:WPRS disambig pages.  Please see WDXE (which was previously up for deletion, kept).  These are generally notable as they are connected to the radio station pages (also always notable). -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  23:26, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * KKIN-FM page has been made. - NeutralHomer  •  Talk  23:55, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  23:27, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  23:27, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep as issue has been addressed per WikiProject Radio Station standards for disambiguating two or more stations with the same base callsign. - Dravecky (talk) 23:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep as licensed radio stations are generally considered notable. The two stations share some programs that are broadcast first on one and then later on the other, but each has their own format. Substantial precedent exists for dab pages that disambiguate two or more radio or television stations with the same base call sign. Mlaffs (talk) 04:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I didn't realise we had different standards for Dab pages depending on what the subject was and I definitely wasn't trying to argue any sort of notability (being well aware that it was notable). Is there a special procedure that needs to be followed to withdraw a nomination? Jasynnash2 (talk) 08:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know, but if you note below your original nomination at the top of this thread that you want to withdraw it, either an admin will close the discussion eventually or someone will do a non-admin close. Mlaffs (talk) 12:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep When the nomination was made, there wasn't an article for KKIN-FM, and nominator was correct that it was disambiguity page that resolved no amibiguity. With the addition of the new article, and the change in circumstances, it's a legitimate dab page.  In this case, I congratulate User:Jasynnash2; but for this nomination, I don't know that the omission would have been fixed.  Neither I nor the nominator have listened to this particular Minnesota radio station, but I'm glad that someone who is familiar with the subject has written about it.  Mandsford (talk) 19:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: To be honest, I am in Virginia, but the information is available from the FCC, Radio-Locator, and 100000watts.com....so it makes any station page easy to make. - NeutralHomer  •  Talk  19:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


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