Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KOTC Vengeance


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to List of KOTC events. Black Kite (t) (c) 15:16, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

KOTC Vengeance
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Also nominating: Non-notable MMA events. KOTC is a second-tier organization (at best) that hosts scores of events each year. Few, if any, warrant individual pages according to WP:MMANOT and general notability guidelines. Primarily results listings. Osubuckeyeguy (talk) 18:39, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * KOTC: Empire
 * King of the Cage: Platinum
 * KOTC Arrival
 * KOTC: Toryumon
 * KOTC Bombs Away
 * KOTC 1
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions.  — Osubuckeyeguy (talk) 18:47, 18 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment Are there reliable sources on these events? If there are, would merging into a sortable list not be a better option than deletion? Someoneanother 18:59, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Independent coverage is essentially limited to promotion and results listings. Results currently can be found elsewhere. There is already a List of KOTC events. The page isn't frequently updated as the org can have as many as five events per month. I think the list page is worth keeping, but individual event pages are not (at least, for this particular org). There appears to be no reason to merge pages as I see it. Osubuckeyeguy (talk) 19:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * In that case Redirect all to List of KOTC events without prejudice. I had a look at sources for Arrival, and it was all just match-ups, no substantial coverage. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but when springing articles out like this it's important to bring your sources with you. Someoneanother 19:35, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete all These are all minor events with no indication of notability and are already listed in List of KOTC events.  I don't even know if the list is noteworthy. Jakejr (talk) 19:51, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Although I don't really feel strongly either way if these articles are kept. I would like to point out that several of them have gotten over 100 hits a month (some even getting over 500) for the last several months according to this tool. Whether its a minor event or not as long as we have decent references and it seems that our readers are interested in reading about it I think we should keep it. --Kumioko (talk) 14:10, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of KOTC events. Appears to fail WP:GNG, search hits seems to be limited to videos and basic result listing.  --TreyGeek (talk) 15:49, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete or Redirect There's nothing to show any of these events are individually notable. Rather, they appear to be routine sports coverage.  They're already listed in the list of KOTC events so redirecting them isn't a big deal. Papaursa (talk) 00:05, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete all Not one of these events meets WP:EVENT and not one meets WP:GNG. Not all sporting events are notable. Redirect after delete is just fine, but pending the addition of multiple reliable sources independent of the subjects, delete all. BusterD (talk) 23:55, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete all as per WP:EVENT and WP:GNG. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 17:36, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.