Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KXLJ-TV


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Keep, as the "delete" comments hinged on its apparent non-existence, as the subject has been proven to exist, the arguments for deletion have no substance. Keilana | Parlez ici 01:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

KXLJ-TV

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There is no record of a station with such call letters and designation within the Federal Communications Commission's database. There is also no record or source of this station being a CBS affiliate. Rollosmokes (talk) 21:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Speedy Delete - if there is no reliable source or record of it's existence, then delete by all means.-- T r U C o 9 31 1 21:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. I can also find no evidence this exists. Doctorfluffy (talk) 21:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Search harder, folks!  Yng  varr  21:40, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Search harder? FCC denies this call sign exists.  That's good enough, frankly. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 22:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I don't understand. When I search the FCC database with KXLJ, I get a record that matches. Yng  varr  22:05, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Guess that Nate got it. Doesn't appear to be a TV station. You have a link for the search results? -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 22:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The search link is on my first comment. It matches the city and the broadcast method (the FCC database lets you search AM, FM, TV, etc) which is why I am surprised. Yng  varr  22:40, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, that's fascinating right there. =^^= Wonder if it's to be the HD broadcast, since it's UHF.  You changed my mind. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 22:52, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong possible speedy delete . Looks like the CBS affiliate is KTNL, according to this page. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 22:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Going to go keep for now. The station exists, but the FCC search that Yng provided doesn't make affiliation clear - so it's possible that it's just a new station, like the KXLJ note below from nate.  Needs more information here.  -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 22:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete (see below) KXLJ (AM), a new radio station in Juneau exists, and it might be a CBS Radio affiliate, so I think it was just a mixup between radio and television.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 22:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Doubtful that it's a CBS affiliate - they're drawing a feed from Air America according to that article. -- Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 22:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Why would being owned by CBS Radio preclude them from broadcasting Air America? (See KPTK) -- RoninBK T C 00:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * They probably broadcast the hourly CBS newscast is what I was trying to say (they aren't owned by CBS, but would just take the network news). That can be a common arrangement; although AA does have an hourly newscast it is optional to take if they can get ABC or CBS Radio for their news.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:50, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete given that it doesn't exist. A new article should be created for the radio station with a bit more information than a one line stub. Capitalistroadster (talk) 00:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to KTNL-TV, update that article further with findings here I think I'm beginning to see that this is a translator of KTNL which is CBS-TV; that article says that they have a Juneau translator on channel 24 as KTNL-LP, while the info on KXLJ-LP from the FCC also lists that station on channel 24, but KTNL's FCC page does not list any LP translators with the same calls. I'm thinking there's some informational conflicts here and the KTNL article needs to be updated with the proper channel 24 calls in Juneau. Note that the station has not updated their website for years so what may have been correct five years ago may not be today; I'm suspecting that they use the branding calls KTNL-LP on air and hide the real calls in tiny type when they have to identify on the hour.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 01:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting deduction, but without some sort of proof of your theory it remains just that. -- RoninBK T C 03:07, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, which is why it's so frustrating to deal with two stations with little to no web presence whatsoever. I'm adding this to the Alaska list to see if we can get some info.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 23:30, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Yng varr 's perfectly cromulent link demonstrating it exists.  Pharmboy (talk) 02:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.   -- --  pb30 < talk > 16:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alaska-related deletion discussions.   —  Nate  • ( chatter ) 23:30, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename to KXLJ-LP. This FCC application filed by the station shows that the station has been operating under special temporary authority (STA) from the FCC since October 4, 2001 as the CBS affiliate for Juneau. The STA currently allows the station to broadcast as a translator for KTNL-TV, while it is constructing facilities pursuant to a construction permit which took nearly five years for the FCC to approve (which it finally did on October 4, 2005). DHowell (talk) 05:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Linky no worky, HTTP404... -- RoninBK T C 12:35, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


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