Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kabir Tanimu Turaki


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The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 21:14, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Kabir Tanimu Turaki

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Blatantly advertorialized biography of a politician, who has a potentially valid claim of notability but is failing to reliably source it. Right across the board, the referencing here is to primary sources, dead links and a user-generated citizen journalism blog, not to reliable source coverage about him in real media. And the article creator also presented a false impression of the subject's notability by templating him and categorizing him as a former member of the Nigerian Senate and a former state governor, even though neither the article body nor any of the sources even suggest that he ever held either office — he was a non-winning candidate for state governor, and the only "senate" office he's claimed to have held is not in a legislature but in the organizational senate of a student union. And given that the article contained easily detected lies, even the notability claim he does have is suspect if it can't be properly sourced. In truth, I would ordinarily have speedied this under criterion G11, unambiguous advertising or promotion, but this is a followup recreation after a virtually identical version was speedied G11 one week earlier. So no prejudice against recreation if it can be written neutrally and sourced properly, but in this form it requires the blow it up and start over treatment. Bearcat (talk) 19:09, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete This page is springing up all over the place with no attempt to resolve the problems: we have had near-identical attempts at Kabiru Tanimu Turaki (four times deleted, now salted), Draft:Kabir Tanimu Turaki, and Kabiru Tanimu Turaki (Danmasanin Gwandu) as well as this previously deleted title Noyster (talk),  20:12, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with Bearcat's analysis and proposal of WP:TNT. I note in passing that article creator is a WP:SPA. Narky Blert (talk) 13:46, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 16:41, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 16:41, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt blantantly promotional article with primary/unreliable sources. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 20:49, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Comment: I agree with nominator and other !voters that the present state of this article is not what Wikipedia should represent but the subject is notable and passes WP:NPOLITICIAN. He was a federal minister and quite instrumental during the 2015 Boko Haram insurgency. You will find sources if you search for Kabiru Turaki. I will not recommend salting the article. I might decide to recreate in the future. Darreg (talk) 15:42, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, sure, that's why I alluded to our blow it up and start over principle — there are times when the article is so bad that we're better off deleting the article that exists and allowing somebody with a better sense of how to write and source a Wikipedia article to start over than we are just trying to repair the current version. And even salt wouldn't prevent a responsible editor from writing a new article in sandbox or draftspace and then having it moved overtop the redlink when it was done — what it would do is prevent this mess from coming back in the meantime. Bearcat (talk) 18:50, 29 August 2017 (UTC)


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