Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kai Kara France


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and redirect to The Ultimate Fighter: Tournament of Champions. I see a rough consensus that this shouldn't be a standalone article. A redirect appears to be reasonable as a plausible search term. T. Canens (talk) 17:19, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Kai Kara France

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Non-notable MMA fighter - does not meet WP:NMMA Peter Rehse (talk) 11:39, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 11:39, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * Comment Not terribly interested in this topic, but there are a few news items about the guy stuff.co.nz newshub and TVNZ. All local (New Zealand) and nothing really compelling, but may push it closer to the WP:GNG. AIR corn  (talk) 10:17, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Biggest MMA organization in Japan just signed him to fight in their year end show. National MMA Media MMA Fighting posted about the fight MMAFighting.com. User:Dannyrube —Preceding undated comment added 19:17, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Rizin isn't even listed among the second tier MMA organizations at WP:MMATIER, so fighting for them is not an indicator of notability. Papaursa (talk) 04:21, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Rizin Fighting Federation is the largest fighting organization in Japan and home to MMA stars as Fedor Emelianenko, Shane Carwin and Muhammed Lawal. They also have affiliations with Top Tier MMA organizations such as Bellator Fighting Championships and multiple different Asian second tier organizations. It is owned by the owner of now defunct Pride Fighting Championships. User:Dannyrube  —Preceding undated comment added 23:04, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect to The Ultimate Fighter: Tournament of Champions He fails to meet the notability criteria for MMA fighters since he has no top tier fights (see WP:NMMA). I also can't find any evidence that shows he's notable for his Muay Thai.  Fight announcements and press releases about his fighting in a TUF competition are routine sports coverage and fail to show WP:GNG.  A redirect would take searchers to the most notable thing in his career to date. Papaursa (talk) 04:21, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Not even sure a redirect is appropriate - eliminated in the second round.Peter Rehse (talk) 11:15, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 10:41, 22 December 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:16, 31 December 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.