Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalateh-ye Qannadan (32°45′ N 59°21′ E), Birjand


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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 14:52, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Kalateh-ye Qannadan (32°45′ N 59°21′ E), Birjand

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Appears to fail WP:GNG. Of the two references on the articles, the first is unreliable per WP:GEOLAND. The census data is in Persian, but can't verify anything from it as I don't know Persian. Gonnym notes at Talk:Kalateh-ye Qannadan (32°45′ N 59°21′ E), Birjand "I'd be very surprised if there are two villages with the same name very close to one another." based on coordinate data. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 10:30, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:42, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:28, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: The appropriate guideline would be WP:GEOLAND, not WP:GNG. But many of this author's other creations have also been harmful and largely false (articles on "towns" that were actually farms, agricultural centers, businesses, wells, and factories). I wouldn't be shocked if this was another example of such negligence, as I doubt there just happens to be two towns with the same exact name so close to each other. -- VersaceSpace  🌃 18:03, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: A google translate of the article title tells me this is a "confectionery", so basically, a candy shop. This serves as further proof of the author's total sloppiness when it comes to verifying the existence of these places. I have no faith in the other tens of thousands of stubs this creator has made over the years. If it was up to me, I would delete all of this user's articles where he is the only contributor. When you make articles on villages called Iran Engineerging Company and Fars Integrated Meat Factory, the community should not have to individually deal with all of your articles. It's just too much. -- VersaceSpace  🌃 18:12, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: It's possible that the location is named something related to candy shop/confectioneries Mebigrouxboy (talk) 23:55, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Yet another stub by this editor about a location that is not notable at best and nonexistent at worst. -- Kinu t/c 18:25, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Whatever is there is probably not a village, WP:TNT. VersaceSpace, you're aware of Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Carlossuarez46 and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive332? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 13:28, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * , I am. -- VersaceSpace  🌃 15:14, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Question: Is a mass deletion of Iranian abadis or something similar, maybe a discussion on some venue, going on at the English Wikipedia? I received a thank for one of my old contributions over Carlossuarez46's mess a few days ago, and a few moments ago, I was pinged at Articles for deletion/Bagh-e Latifan and now I see this. As the user who got thousands of Iranian abadis deleted, I would like to ask you wait for a few more months. There may be finally a way to distinguish Iranian real villages from non-real ones. You can't look at the name of the abadis and say this is just a confectionery! This is definitely not a confectionery. It's like saying Smith, Alberta is just a blacksmith workshop, because it contains the word smith in its name! 4nn1l2 (talk) 14:00, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The comparison to a hamlet in Alberta doesn't make sense to me. In these cases the name of the "hamlets" are very non-specific. Since we're using english examples, this creator has made tons upon tons of articles like 18 Mile House, California and Biola Junction, California (now a redirect) , claimed "unincorporated communities". In Persian, the examples are even worse, and translations have turned up gas stations, factories, even slaughterhouses (would anyone name a town after this?), which is why I had no doubts about this being a confectionary. -- VersaceSpace  🌃 15:36, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand your case, but sometimes names can be really weird. Imagine having a hamlet named La Mort aux Juifs ('Death to Jews'). So it wouldn't be impossible to have a confectionery-named village either. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 17:31, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It wouldn't be impossible, but these are the exception and absolutely not the norm. If it was one or two, I'd take that stance, but there's literally hundreds of these "non-villages", so I can't in good conscience agree that this is the case. -- VersaceSpace  🌃 17:54, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * What you say is generally true: there are many many Iranian non-villages at the English Wikipedia created by User:Carlossuarez46. But this article is not a good example. Qannadan (قنادان) does not mean a confectionery in Persian, but confectioners and it can also be just a family name. Kalateh (کلاته) is used for many villages. It roughly means a village or castle built on a mountain. Anyway, this definitely can't be a confectionery. Confectionery stores in Iran are only and only inside cities, not in the middle of nowhere. 4nn1l2 (talk) 07:39, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'd be very surprised if there are two villages with the same name very close to one another. You would be more surprised to know there are THREE abadis with the same name at the same province, the same county, the same district, and the same rural district! Please note that I do NOT claim these are villages; I specifically use the word abadi which can be anything from a gas station in the middle of nowhere to a metropolis like Tehran. Wherever is not a ruin, is an abadi in Iran. Iran seriously suffers from lack of water, so you can't just find a place and live wherever you want; you need to deeply think about water all the time. See qanat).
 * 128870: the population has not been reported for security and safety reasons. It means 3 or less than three families live here according to the latest census in 2016
 * 133487: nobody lives here according to the latest census; it has been completely abandoned; population: zero.
 * 132791: 12 people in 4 families live here according to the latest census.
 * Ctrl+ F: statistical codes of the abadis here to verify the above-mentioned information. 4nn1l2 (talk) 14:24, 3 July 2022 (UTC)


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