Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalekidan Girma


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The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 22:43, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Kalekidan Girma

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When I came across this in NPP, I wanted to mark as reviewed - first female pilot in Ethiopia is definitely a WP:SIGNIF claim, and I thought it would be possible to establish notability. However, on closer inspection, she's the first female Ethiopian to captain a specific type of aircraft, and that's sourced to Twitter. Of all the sources in the article, only Twitter and Facebook mention her by name - the other articles are all about a series of all-female flights that Ethiopian Airlines operate, and none of them mention her by name (according to Ctrl+F "Girma"). I spent a bit of time on Google trying to find better sources, but drew a blank - nothing that is independent, secondary and reliable gives her any depth of coverage, so she fails WP:GNG as far as I can make out. Girth Summit  (blether) 14:08, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Afterthought - the subject's name seems to be written as Kalkidan Girma in most Google hits I got - I don't know if this is a typo, or two valid transliterations of the name in Ethiopian script, but that might help people look for sources if they wish to. Girth Summit  (blether)  14:30, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  Girth Summit  (blether)  14:08, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom ~ Amkgp  💬  17:13, 22 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment: I am not sure whether this is sufficient to establish notability, but her appointment as captain was covered by Fana Broadcasting in Ethiopia (link). (I'll add this to the article.) Technically she's "Captain Kalkidan" — "Girma" is a patronymic. I don't know enough Amharic to tell whether "ቃለኪዳን ግርማ" is the correct transliteration but it didn't turn up much, in terms of reliable sources. (There's no article under "ቃለኪዳን ግርማ" at Amharic Wikipedia, whose editors would presumably have an easier time finding reliable sources and establishing notability, but this does seem to have been very recent). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 21:50, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks very much for explaining about the name - very helpful. I went back and checked the sources, this time using Ctrl+F "Kal", but still didn't find any mention of her in any of the non-social media ones, except for the Fana Broadcasting one the you added, which for me (as a four-sentence mini-article) doesn't really help establish notability. (I did have a closer look at this source though, which indicates that Ethiopian Airlines first female captain was Amsale Gualu, whom we already have an article about; Captain Kalkidan is indeed Ethopian's first female captain of a specific type of plane.) Girth Summit  (blether)  10:38, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete First female pilot of the Airbus A350 for Ethiopian Airlines, even assuming it is true, is not itself notable. There appears to be little else to sustain notability under the GNG or any applicable SNG. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:10, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: The article does not meet WP:GNG, WP:BASIC, or WP:ANYBIO. WP:BEFORE revealed no additional WP:RS containing material that meets WP:SIGCOV. I also searched under ቃለኪዳን ግርማ. BLP articles should strictly follow sourcing requirements in guidelines.  // Timothy ::  talk  13:06, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


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