Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalev Ots (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:10, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Kalev Ots
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I am also nominating the following related page:

Both of these self-appointed "prime ministers" are simply non-notable. No coverage in major Estonian newspapers: Postimees: Kalev Ots, Ahti Mänd; Eesti Päevaleht: Kalev Ots, Ahti Mänd. There are some web sources, but they seem to be mostly homepages of different Estonian far-right (more or less) organizations, and cannot be considered reliable.

Wikipedia does have a place for curiosities, but only for such, which have enough coverage - that is, they have generated enough media fuss. But we don't need to promote that kind of bullshit, which is in these two articles: pointless legal constructions made up by a few stubborn men.

Reccomended reading for this AfD: chapter 10 from Antoine de Saint Exupéry's The Little Prince. K731 (talk) 16:23, 16 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Are you saying that if currently no newspapers are not talking about them, then we should delete all of those articles? I think they are notable. Estonian and Polish Wikipedia has articles about them also. Pelmeen10 (talk) 16:59, 16 August 2010 (UTC)


 * They're the current and previous prime minister, shouldn't their activities be covered by current newspapers? I brought out the newspapers to show that there's basically no (reliable) information about them (indeed, why should there be if they're not notable?). There's the website of their Nõmme government, some other blogs and not much else.
 * Estonian Wikipedia should and does have wider coverage of Estonia-related topics, but English Wikipedia can't include every less than marginal political figure. K731 (talk) 17:35, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable enough per the arguments given by K731. —Quibik (talk) 07:42, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Estonia-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:11, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:11, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete both The phrase "internationally unrecognized government" pretty well says it all. Although there were governments in exile for Estonia during the decades where the Baltic states were part of the USSR, these two gentlemen set up their own claim after the re-attainment of independence in 1991, and were joined by their own picks for a ministry. Mandsford 12:56, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. --Civis (talk) 13:56, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.