Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kaley Marie


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The result was delete. czar 15:11, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Kaley Marie

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Contested WP:PROD. It's an autobiography, there's no independent sources listed, and I'm not seeing anything jumping out at me on DuckDuckGo. PCHS-NJROTC (Messages)Growing tired of the bullshit day by day. 07:17, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Comment- I took a quick peek and found a reference at westseattleherald.com She seems to be rather new in the business. Make no mistake, the article as it stands does need a pile of work. There are MANY claims that need citations. I would suggest not being too hasty with a delete however as, in time, the article would perhaps have to be created again. Regards,   Aloha27   talk  07:59, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. I propose letting the AfD take its course, but sometimes AfDs do save articles. PCHS-NJROTC  (Messages)Growing tired of the bullshit day by day. 08:04, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Comment - I saw this scroll by in WP:RTRC. As a follower of upcoming singer-songwriters, I've done an initial sift of most of the current content. The article is still messy, but it can't all be fixed in one go. I'll continue looking for independent sources and future developments, but I think the article may be WP:TOOSOON for Wikipedia mainspace. Scottyoak2 (talk) 10:56, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  Musa  Talk  11:49, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * Weak Delete Just a case of WP:TOOSOON, not notable yet. Some okay sources, but, as Aloha27 said, she seems to be new to the business. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 13:25, 30 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete from Mainspace and move to Userspace for future consideration as her career unfolds. At this time, I think it is WP:TOOSOON and fails notability. Unfortunately, the autobiographical approach got her bitten rather than welcomed, and it appears that she may have reacted as a new teenage editor might and was indefintely blocked. (Sigh.)
 * Admins might want to look at Notability (music) Criteria #9 (Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition). She did win this at Music Meets Video, but I don't think it qualifies as a major music competition. Scottyoak2 (talk) 02:45, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * She didn't get bit because she made an autobiography. She got bit because she repeatedly ignored warnings that she was breaking rules and being disruptive. Although I kind of regret not pointing out the sockpuppetry policy to her before going to SPI, the fact that she turned around and made another sock after the SPI was started tells me it would have been a wasted effort. PCHS-NJROTC  (Messages)Growing tired of the bullshit day by day. 22:33, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete She is a 17-year-old who does not clearly pass any of the notability criteria for a musician.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:14, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Why would you mention her age in your response? It literally has nothing to do with notability. 2600:100C:B016:C55:C8A9:FDF4:8D90:3083 (talk) 23:24, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * He's probably trying to compare her to teenaged mutant pom-pom editors. I agree the mention of her age is inappropriate for determining notability though; Taylor Swift was no older when she reached notability for example. PCHS-NJROTC  (Messages)Growing tired of the bullshit day by day. 00:45, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Why would he try to compare a singer to a Wikipedia vandal? This singer could vandalize Wikipedia all day and that would have no bearing on her notability. I couldn't care less whether this article is kept or deleted. I just like to chime in when people bring up age in situations where it doesn't matter. 2600:100C:B00D:E492:A51E:2343:7AF6:6567 (talk) 01:51, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Why do thousands of school IPs get blocked over a handful of test edits spread out over time? Believe me, I'm on your side on the age thing. PCHS-NJROTC  (Messages)Growing tired of the bullshit day by day. 04:28, 2 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete Does not meet the criteria for notable person. Maybe she will be famous in the future but as it stands she doesn't meet the criteria for inclusion in the encyclopaedia. ツStacey (talk) 16:56, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete – can be re-added if she ever becomes notable. KnowledgeBattle | TalkPage | GodlessInfidel ┌┬╫┴┼╤╪╬╜ 00:45, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as the overall article is still questionable for better notability improvements. SwisterTwister   talk  05:16, 7 May 2016 (UTC)


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