Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kali Raat


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to List of Hindi films of 1977. I don't see a strict consensus for any outcome but this closure would accommodate the opinions of the most participants. I would have closed this AFD discussion as "No consensus" if the references had included page numbers, ensuring that the article subject was actually discussed in them, but just listing books doesn't give me confidence this is the case. Liz Read! Talk! 01:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Kali Raat

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fails general notability guideline. search only turns up a song of the same name and the phrase "kali raat". ltb d l (talk) 01:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:13, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and India. ltb d l (talk) 01:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Hindi films of 1977: notable cast and musicians, is verifiable (see Books) not opposed to keep if sources can be found to expand this. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  07:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - I see it has an entry in Encyclopedia of Indian Cinema. It needs expansion, not deletion. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  13:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Expand it? There are no reliable sources. What exactly will you use for content? Meanwhile, why don't you cite that enclopedia article somewhere so we can all read it. Yappy2bhere (talk) 02:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Shahid, notable. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete or Redirect to List_of_Hindi_films_of_1977. No sources with enough coverage and reviews. Fails WP:GNG and fails to warrant a standalone page on the film. RangersRus (talk) 15:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Hindi films of 1977 or Delete. The only source I've seen is IMDb, which is as questionable as the current wiki page. I'm not even sure how one would be able to appropriately expand the article, given the lack of WP:SIGCOV. I'm pro-redirect given the notability of those involved in the film. Lindsey40186 (talk) 01:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Please review recently added sources to article to see if this satisfies the need for sources. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:51, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Keeping it is out of the question. Google finds no reviews, no interviews, no box office, nothing - fails WP:GNG with knobs on. There isn't even a reliable source to establish cast members or release date. I find a monochrome movie poster (VHS box? idk) that names the production company and five members of the crew but no cast and no year. There is no way to write a "reasonably balanced article" without sources. Redirecting to List of Hindi films of 1977 isn't an option. There's no reliable source that confirms it even belongs in that list. I find a movie poster (VHS box? idk) that names five members of the crew but none of the cast or the release date. Without support that entry will be removed sooner or later, the proposed redirect will then redirect to a page that doesn't mention the topic, and we'll waste some time at WP:RfD disposing of an ill-considered redirect. Yappy2bhere (talk) 02:19, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Unless more or better coverage at WP:Library or elsewhere convinces us otherwise, redirect to List of Hindi films of 1977. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 08:35, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Entries exist in six books. DareshMohan (talk) 05:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @dareshmohan: where??? ltb d l (talk) 06:26, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * oh, you added them to the article. but entries are not remotely significant coverage. ltb d l (talk) 06:27, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment. None of the recently added sources satisfy notability. Recently added sources are google snippets. Source snippet 1 has an entry with the names of director, producer, Musician and cast but misses the year. Source snippet 2 has List of entries starting with Kala but does not list Kali Raat. Source snippet 3 has an entry for Kali Raat with name of director and year. No significant coverage or any critical reviews for the film. I still stand by my vote earlier to Delete or Redirect to List_of_Hindi_films_of_1977. RangersRus (talk) 12:46, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Online it is often difficult to find extensive coverage of pre Internet Indian films. But films with notable actors will almost certainly have had reviews in newspapers. We don't even mention the Hindi title for the film. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * काली रात. It means "Black Night". Hard to believe that so many of the stars, singers etc. deserve articles but not the film itself. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:17, 1 July 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.