Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalpit Veerval


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 06:27, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Kalpit Veerval

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Creating on behalf of user TheodoreIndiana whose AfD process was incomplete. Failure to meet notability (with which I concur) Sirlanz 11:40, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 11:48, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 11:48, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 11:48, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * As I earlier mentioned in the talk page, I believe the subject is notable and there are numerous sources. Here are the facts:


 * 1) Subject got a first-time 100% score in the nearly 6-decade long history of the IIT-JEE examination, as per the sources. It is not about topping an examination (as it may seem first to any editor), which happens every year or season. IIT-JEE is regarded one of the toughest examinations in the world, especially due to the sheer scale of competition and need for elimination. Getting a first-time notable score is a highly notable feat, at least within India.
 * 2) Subject earned an entry in the 2018 edition of prestigious Limca Book of Records. This itself is a major achievement for his age.
 * 3) Most IIT-JEE toppers come from a privileged background. Although I purposely omitted to mention it in article (since I consider it too personal information), I understand from sources that he is from an under-privileged background and could have secured admission under reservation quota, he worked hard to earn the 100% score which even students from privileged background and resources could not achieve in the decades long history of this exam. Therefore, many students, especially from under-privileged backgrounds, found his story inspirational (you can find such in social media/blogs, which are not considered official sources for WP). From my experience, I expect that any Indian IIT-aspiring student who would hear about the subject would be naturally inclined to know more about him, wherein this WP article can help them exactly; this has been my main motivation behind preparing this article.
 * 4) Subject has become notable through his major achievement in 2017 and is still a teenager. Of course, we don't know whether his future life or career will be notable or not. However, he has excelled consistently in previous years (although humbler achievements) and I would expect only the same in future. However, WP editors should be concerned about whether what has happened so far is noteworthy or not. I believe subject is highly notable, in the Indian context.
 * 5) Numerous sources exist, beyond what you find in the article. In case if you want to find more, please check previous revisions such as . Since there was a proposed deletion earlier today, I had tried to add several of the vernacular print newspaper sources from across India (Tamil, Bengali, Malayalam, Kannada, Hindi) to highlight pan-Indian notability, although these were removed by the AfD nominator as he reported them as overciting (which was a new concept to me, anyway).
 * That's all I want to say. I am glad this discussion happened again, and I leave to all of you enlightened folks to decide the merit of this subject and the destiny of this article. Together with the other painful AfD process experience this nominator has put me on another article last week (which ultimately passed with a unanimous 'Keep' verdict, but triggered an open review request on the Admin noticeboard), I am now personally convinced that I should most likely keep my hands away from this WP article creation frenzy for indefinite time. I have better things to do or volunteer, than create candidate articles for time-consuming deletion discussions like this. Sahrudayan (talk) 13:16, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete top marks on a test are not a sign of notability. Veerval may well go on to become a notable engineer, but that outcome is not gauranteed, and until it actual happens, or until he becomes notable in some other way, at best this is a violation of the not news guidelines for Wikipedia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:55, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 10:16, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

I suggest a reexamination. I agree with Sahrudayan. Not only his achievement was unprecedented, he belonged to a scheduled caste. There is a widespread belief that that a scheduled caste student can never excel and can get into a prestigious institution only be exploiting the reverse discrimination quota system. Malaiya (talk) 03:32, 9 November 2018 (UTC)