Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kamal Raja


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:07, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Kamal Raja

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Non-notable musician, doesn't meet any relevant standards. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 00:49, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Creator appears to have a WP:SPA in terms of their contribs - possibly promotional.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh [talk] 01:08, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

I've done my first entry to submit a known musician who has alot of reference and has no wikipedia. If I made a mistake in writing something please let me know. I've tried my best to put the article in a general way for the outer world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lightenterprise (talk • contribs) 01:22, 19 August 2011 (UTC) — Lightenterprise (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * I think that you would do best to read Notability (music). We have well-defined rules over whether musicians meet our notability guidelines, which they have to do to merit articles. These aren't a judgement about the musician him/herself, but instead based on how much they have been reported on by outsiders etc, and on whether they have been featured in charts, or won awards etc. It may well be that Kamal Raja is very talented, but he will have to achieve notability elsewhere before he gets a Wikipedia article - as you can imagine, many relatively-unknown musicians, bands etc would like to have an article, but we aren't here to provide free publicity - instead, we base articles on external evidence of success. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:01, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

I read the article about Notability (music). Therefor I have a question. I know he has had recently several interviews on big tv channels and radio stations. But how can I place that in the article. Cause these are not on internet. He is also currently being voted for best newcomer, best singer, best single for the brit asia award. Can i allready mention this? Or does he needs to be nominated first. Also his first track was in the FunX Radio chartlist for almost a year (what is the best way to mention this). Lightenterprise (talk) 10:08, 19 August 2011 (UTC) — Lightenterprise (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete - Nothing notable on Google and Yahoo. SwisterTwister  talk  05:08, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Could find nothing notable. Tried to find if his new song charted on any national list, but couldn't see any references. Bgwhite (talk) 07:42, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

If you look by Kamal Raja - No Clue on google then you find enough notable information about his latest single. And his first single was in the chartlist. The second will be soon in the chart. And besides this i've added alot of reference. How can this been unseen? Isn't that notable as well, all the links are big websites in the UK Asian scene and dutch asian scene as well. Lightenterprise (talk) 11:03, 20 August 2011 (UTC) — Lightenterprise (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * All I see on Google are a bunch of YouTube videos (some unlisted) on a channel that hasn't been logged into for a month, and a website link http://www.cj-records.com/ which is "Forbidden" (probably a dead site) - not much to go on. Notability requires independent recognition, not just passing references or self-reference.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh [talk] 12:39, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I can make a screenshot of my google search, where you do see alot of notable pages without deadlinks. and as mentioned in his biography cj-records was his old record label that doe not exist anymore.Lightenterprise (talk) 19:23, 20 August 2011 (UTC) — Lightenterprise (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Screenshots can be edited and this isn't a social networking site it's an encyclopedia - Wiki determines notability based on independent searches and current results, not screenshots. If his site doesn't function anymore, and he has not bothered to even remove it from his own YouTube channel in that time, he isn't doing himself any favours in terms of self-interest is he?  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh [talk] 13:01, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Here is the XChart proof on #74 http://www.xchart.nl/chart/chart.php?chart=Xchart_100&id=710&p=3&baseurl= (google you type kamal raja xchart first thing pops up) He has been with his first single in the charts for over 1 year. First few months it was on number one. Lightenterprise (talk) 19:42, 20 August 2011 (UTC) — Lightenterprise (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * You speak of Kamal in the third-person, which suggests you are not him. But there are 2 images on the article, uploaded by yourself and listed as "own work". If you are not Kamal, how or where did you obtain these images? In short, I sense copyright concerns here. AFAIK, permission must be granted for the use of images, especially in biographies (BLPs) - and images must be tagged with the correct license.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh [talk] 12:12, 23 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — frankie (talk) 01:10, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions.  — frankie (talk) 01:10, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Vanity article of a non-notable singer. Keb25 (talk) 14:52, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

I am Tahir Mohamed. And my company is Light-Enterprise. I photographed the pictures and i can prove this. That's why i added my own work as copyright. Lightenterprise (talk) 00:12, 24 August 2011 (UTC) — Lightenterprise (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete. Maybe one day, but currently the artist is not notable. Also, per the above, a major WP:COI issue as the creator is the owner of the label that released the artist. --Muhandes (talk) 10:39, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
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