Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kamehameha Schools Song Contest


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Kamehameha Schools. Compromise between keep and delete. (non-admin closure)  J 947  01:28, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Kamehameha Schools Song Contest

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Article was Prod deleted on December 26, 2016, only to be recreated a few days later bv. There's no sourcing provided which shows that this is anything more that a local school song contest and not Wikipedia notable per WP:NEVENT. All of the sources are primary and most of the content being added by various IPs is unsourced BLP type of stuff. I've tried to fine better sourcing myself, but have not had much luck. I also asked about this at WT:HAWAII, but so far have not gotten a response. I asked the admin who deleted the article about it at User talk:Explicit, and was advised to bring it to AfD.

Someone did add a mergeto template to the article in January 2016, but there does not seem to have been any discussion about it. It might be possible to redirect/merge the article into Kamehameha Schools, but that section is also unsourced and some serious trimming would need to be done for that to be done right. I'm not sure how to categorize this debate so I'm going to leave it as "U" for now. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:51, 3 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hawaii-related deletion discussions. Marchjuly (talk) 07:52, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Marchjuly (talk) 07:52, 3 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Weak keep - I was heading down a Delete route until I looked for secondary sources. There are a small number, so it may just creep across the Notability threshold. CalzGuy (talk) 12:56, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:28, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:28, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge into Kamehameha Schools. It is primarily of local interest only, and any notability independent from the school itself is marginal at best.  Once the minutia and trivia is trimmed from the song contest article, there isn't anything more to say than what can fit nicely at the parent article about the school.  Deli nk (talk) 19:14, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: After looking at some of the sources found by, I think they are probably OK per WP:V to source content about the contest in Kamehameha Schools, but I'm not sure if there's enought to support a stand-alone article. Most of the coverage is local, so it does not seem to be enough per WP:GEOSCOPE. Only the Huffington Post articles seem to be anything outside of Hawaii. One of the articles here is a blog which may be OK per WP:NEWSBLOG for citing as a source, but not helpful for notability. The other article here seems to be more of a trivial mention of the contest as part of an article about the a particular singer, so it also doesn't really help towards notability. Anyway, redirects are cheap so maybe a redirect to the school article is now appropriate and the new sources can be used there. I do have a concern that the article will probably be recreated. The AfD template has already been removed by two IPs, and the article was re-created shortly after in was prod deleted. Will a consensus here to redirect/merge preclude any recreation of the article? A merge is also possible, but some major trimming is going to be needed since I don't think the school article could support the amount of (unsourced) detail added by IPs to the contest's article. Maybe a table listing the winners supported by sources could be added (a primary source is probably OK here) along with the image of the program, but not sure about anything more than that. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:19, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947  21:54, 10 March 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 00:21, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge with Kamehameha Schools. It's significant to these schools, but doesn't seem to receive attention elsewhere. Imalawyer (talk) 05:47, 18 March 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.