Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kamigawa


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Plane (Magic: The Gathering). Spartaz Humbug! 10:36, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Kamigawa

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Fictional world in a trading card game. The article is substantially unsourced, containing only links to the manufacturer's descriptions of individual cards set in that world (which are not sources for the fictional world as such) A Google search does not show reliable secondary sources discussing this fictional world, as would be required for a separate article by WP:V. There seem to be some novels or other media set in this world, but they seem to be written and published by the company producing the game, or its employees.

If and when reliable sources for the subject are found, it may be mentioned at Plane (Magic: The Gathering) and a redirect may be created there. But currently the article should not be redirected because it is not described at the target article, and per WP:V, the current content should not be merged because it is unsourced (and also because apart from the lead it fails WP:GAMEGUIDE). Compare Articles for deletion/Phyrexia, where another article about a fictional world from this game was deleted for the same reasons.  Sandstein  06:24, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge, where appropriate to Plane (Magic: The Gathering), Champions of Kamigawa, Betrayers of Kamigawa and Saviors of Kamigawa. I would also support merging all four Kamigawa articles into a single article on the Kamigawa block&mdash;parceling up the storyline elements among the sets doesn't make a lot of sense. I agree that much of the article should not be merged, but most of the lede is easily verified and should be preserved somewhere. Cool Hand Luke 16:03, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't object to a selective merger, but only to the extent that the content that is to be merged is made verifiable by inline citations to reliable sources. Unsourced content should not be merged. (Otherwise, per WP:V, anybody can simply delete it from the target article and it may not be re-added except with references.)  Sandstein   16:27, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll try to cite some of the lede this weekend. Cool Hand Luke 16:46, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:50, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:50, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 15:57, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge per my comments in the other MtG location AfDs (there are a group of them all started at about the same time). Hobit (talk) 01:27, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * While the outcome is clear its not entirely clear what the merge targets are. Please can we confirm this and then this can close. Spartaz Humbug! 15:59, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Plane (Magic: The Gathering) would appear to be the correct target. I'm not a subject expert though. Hobit (talk) 23:14, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge any sourced content to Plane (Magic: The Gathering). Qrsdogg (talk) 01:38, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.