Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kamilia Abdelfattah


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The result was delete. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 13:06, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Kamilia Abdelfattah

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per WP:SCHOLAR, no notability and just a normal professor without awards or accolades, many information in the article aren't cited, also it contain unreliable sources like Arwiki article and (kenanaonline.com) edited by users, google results also confirm she isn't a high profile person. Ibrahim.ID ✪ 15:51, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
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 * Comment She appears to have established a lot of university child psychology programs at major universities in Egypt. If that can be verified, I do think she might meet criteria #4 of WP:NACADEMIC for her services in bringing child psychology training/studies to her nation. That's a pretty big deal.4meter4 (talk) 02:44, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * this information isn't cited and all information in the article too, I searched in google (Arabic and English) and no reliable sources, her efforts are too normal for any academic psychologist, if she a pioneer in child psychology why there is no awards, honours, famous books, researches or citations? this is why we delete the Arabic article, and I think admins keep this article for long time because they think she is a notable person in Egypt and she has a article in Arwiki, but the situation has changed --Ibrahim.ID ✪ 19:14, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ceethekreator (talk) 23:34, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete with great reluctance. It would be laudable to include another non-Western woman of science in the project but every person has to be notable on their own merits and that notability needs to be verifiable.  In this case, the article is a copy of their CV posted at one of the cited sources (Arab PsyNet) and the other sources offered are an empty page, a link to arwiki, not actually about the article subject, and another blank page.  The list of external links at first appears impressive but each link is repeated and none are WP:RS.  No visible sources  available in separate searched. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 00:46, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak delete I agree that the sources currently in the article are not independent, are circular, etc. Searching on her name in Arabic, there are many results in Google Books. Not being able to read Arabic, all I can do is copy the snippet of text in the preview into Google Translate. Many of the results seem to be citations of her works. So, I wonder, is she heavily cited (whatever that means for child psychology studies in Arabic, and how many sources which might cite her are digitised)? Google Scholar gives about 38 results, many of which are citations. That doesn't seem a lot, but again, it's hard to follow without being able to read Arabic. Searching on the title of one of her books finds no results in Google Scholar, which doesn't match with the Google Books results where that book is cited in many publications .... So I'm not at all satisfied that I have a clear picture of what sources exist. But, at present, in the absence of reliable sources to verify the statements in the article, I would say delete unless/until they can be provided. RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:40, 2 November 2019 (UTC)


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