Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kaoru Mizuhara


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 00:52, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Kaoru Mizuhara

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I wish to put this article up for discussion. This article's content is problematic. The 'personal' section contains triviacruft. The 'performance' section reads like a resume. It may be that this article was simply cut and paste from an anime website, in which case the content is not suitable for an encyclopedia article but rather suitable for a fansite. By the way, Japanese people have a thing about ABO blood groups... if you've ever been a youngster in Japan you'll understand that. But it doesn't belong in the lead paragraph of an English-language encyclopedia article. Richard Cavell (talk) 06:54, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I do understand your points, but deletion sounds extreme. Firstly, I want to address that I did not copy and paste the information I wrote for the article from elsewhere, but simply translated what I could from the Japanese Wikipedia article regarding the same person in the article. I am also not sure what you mean by the performance section reading like "a resume" when I am simply crediting her with her roles in various media sources. The person is by all means a voice actress, and I do not see why listing core information about her performance is an issue. I believe articles on actors and actresses list the roles they have played before as well.
 * I am content with removing parts that have its notability questioned even though I have mostly written things on par with the Japanese voice actor/actress articles and provided references. Please let me know if there is a compromise we can reach instead of deletion, as this has come as a surprise to me. --21:26, 9 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willsun (talk • contribs)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions.   -- Ray (talk) 08:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.   -- Ray (talk) 08:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - notability is not established. Óðinn (talk) 09:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Notability not evident from article. Comment: Please note that AFD template is not on this article at present. Please note that AfD template appears prone to vandalism.Stetsonharry (talk) 14:27, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.   —Fg2 (talk) 10:37, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - AfD is not cleanup. 208.245.87.2 (talk) 13:16, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm. WP:ENTERTAINER requires multiple lead roles, and article indicates only one. OTOH, her performance in a minor role is specificially called out as causing the popularity of the character and spawning internet memes. If this were reliably sourced, together the two look like enough notability for a provisional keep. If the popularity and memage cannot be verified within a reasonable timeframe (say, a month, given that sources are likely to be in Japanese) then we can revisit the subject's notability. Also, I'd just like to reiterate the previous comment that AfD is not cleanup. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. WP:NOTLAW  Obviously this person has played a significant enough part in notable series, and thus should be allowed to have an article about them.  Voice actors are equal to regular actors as far I'm concerned, and I use the same standard to judge them. Dream Focus (talk) 18:43, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nothing is obvious from this article, where the only English ref is a blog. Óðinn (talk) 07:37, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Do we need a reference proving she was a voice actor of a main character for a popular anime series? Or is it all about no mention listed of anyone reviewing a voice actor's performance anywhere deemed notable?  Voice actors, unlike regular actors, despite their obvious hard work and skill, don't get the media attention that movie actors get.  Different standards I say.  They need policy for them, just like they have for so many other things.  Also, if those on the Japanese Wikipedia said those sources were notable, then I see no reason not to accept it.  Running through Google translator will show what was actually said, and I suppose if someone wanted to take the time, they could search for information about those publications, and determine how popular(paid circulation of something makes it notable I believe) they are in Japan. Dream Focus (talk) 18:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. It obviously needs some work, but the subject itself has encyclopedic merit and should not be deleted. Aidolon 19:50, 12 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aidolon (talk • contribs)


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