Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kapsetaki Twins


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 13:58, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Kapsetaki Twins

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Prodded with "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline requirement nor the more detailed Notability supplementary essay. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. It seems that there might be a conflict of interest here, as several anonymous IPs have been editing. Also, WP is not a catalogue and with all those lists of unknown CD recordings, I find it difficult to understand if this page should remain. I propose its deletion. Mightberightorwrong (talk) 12:24, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:12, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
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 * Comment. How is Notability (fiction) relevant? Are they not real people? pburka (talk) 19:00, 15 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Yeah, my bad. Sorry for not using the tag correctly. All good now. Mightberightorwrong (talk) 20:13, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 13:18, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep They have notable publications, many performances at notable venues, and have been taught by some of the world's top classical musicians. Batmanthe8th (talk) 15:15, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Can you elaborate on the 'notable publications' and the world's 'top classical musicians' please? Thanks. Mightberightorwrong (talk) 23:08, 21 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Seems based completely on self-referenced claims, misrepresentation of facts, and lacking thorough and in-depht coverage from reliable sources. There is a lot of impressive info, but this is just the surface. For example: there is long list of "awards" with very "imposing" titles, but while searching on these competitions we just find prizes from local conservatoires, online contests of dubious importance with refs only in facebook and/or blogs etc. ǁ ǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 (talk) 12:24, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I do not agree with your comment on "self-referenced claims, misrepresentation of facts" because there seem to be many reliable references (none of them are blogs or facebook sources). Some of the publications are in high impact journals (e.g. Nature Communications) and the musicians they have been taught by are top in their field. From the whole list of awards/scholarships I see that only 3 are related to conservatories. Very few of the competitions mentioned are online. Online competitions are not less important - in fact I think they are more competitive because hundreds of musicians usually apply.--123michaellon123 (talk) 07:29, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. 123michaellon123 joined WP just now to contribute to this deletion discussion. Surely their vote cannot count. Mightberightorwrong (talk) 16:35, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You are right; obviously another WP:SPA, the third after the two SPAs who created and contributed heavily to the article, account Stkaps in the beginning and recently user Leotil. An apparent case of confict of interest and without doubt self-promotion through the use of multiple accounts, and WP:Canvassing. ǁ ǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 (talk) 04:40, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * PS. Anyway, regardless of all that, facts are facts: it's impossible to find reliable refs on these "awards", how prestigious they are etc. ǁ ǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 (talk) 04:58, 2 May 2021 (UTC)


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