Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kapten & Son


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Enigmamsg 21:08, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Kapten & Son

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At risk of engaging in a "move war", I decided to bring this to AfD. The single purpose account who created this article also shoved it into article space with a promotional tone and lack of reliable references. After I draftified it, they pushed it back. I still feel it's promotional, and below the quality of reliable references to satisfy WP:CORP. Drewmutt ( ^ᴥ^ ) talk  18:16, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as spam created by an account that has been confirmed now as a sockmaster. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:43, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 19:12, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 19:13, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Delete: The native advertising and the promotional tone lead to believe that this article does not meet WP:NCORP nor will it any time soon and I do not believe it can be salvaged. My, admittedly cursory, Google searches do not appear to result in any more useful sources. Waggie (talk) 20:03, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep.  The article is less promotional than it once was. (For example, I changed "retail partner" to "dealer".) Analysis of sources: There are enough valid references such as Fast Company and Forbes. I am less qualified to judge the German-language references, but InTouch https://intouch.wunderweib.de/ seems to be independent of the topics it covers, despite resembling a tabloid, and Horizont appears to be reliable as well. The German Design Award, awarded by the German Design Council, also appears to be notable. The Wikipedia article German Design Award says there are two awards with similar names, but this one is awarded by the German Design Council. The editor who created the article has been blocked for sockpuppetry, but the sockpuppetry happened after the article was created. One should obviously be suspicious about the article, but since other editors have improved it, I think the article is now adequate. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 19:30, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Did you miss the created by a spammer sock part? See also native advertising. Sourcing doesn’t seem to meet the new and improved WP:NCORP, (as an example, Forbes is almost always excluded as a valid source under NCORP because of the contributor model). Anyway, the sourcing is crap, but even if it wasn’t, it wouldn’t matter. We delete advertising, we don’t save it. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:50, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete written in a very advertising/promotional tone that seems like it's advertising. Several sources are also advertising, and an online search turns up nothing but advertising. Fails WP:SOAP. Also created by a blocked sock and WP:SPA. Tillerh11 (talk) 21:24, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG . Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:42, 6 July 2018 (UTC)d WP:GNG.
 * Delete as per TonyBallioni Promotional, fails WP:NCORPDeathlibrarian (talk) 11:46, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete the new NCORP guidelines make it very hard for corps to get on Wikipedia. This one fails as per NCORP. Dial911 (talk) 19:19, 11 July 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.