Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karachi Kings–Lahore Qalandars rivalry


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The result was no consensus. Views are pretty much split down the middle on this one. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  18:15, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Karachi Kings–Lahore Qalandars rivalry

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Contested PROD. Not notable, it's 2 teams that have only existed for 4 years. This "rivalry" is made up hype that doesn't meet WP:GNG Joseph2302 (talk) 17:27, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:27, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 17:27, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete although three sources discuss a "rivalry", two of them appear to be more or less the same, and none of the three really establish this as a notable rivalry. Fails WP:GNG. Harrias  talk 17:31, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems like a legitimate rivalry: I am not an expert in Cricket but this one has WP:RSs per WP:NEXIST and passes WP:N - most of the references below describe this rivalry and "biggest" and "intense" etc. Finally per WP:NRIVALRY This passes the requirement of NRIVALRY because of the RS. Sports rivalries are not inherently notable. Articles on sports rivalries, such as Yankees–Red Sox rivalry, should satisfy the general notability guideline.
 * 1) Sportkeeda
 * 2) The Express Tribune
 * 3) 24 News HD
 * 4) Cricket World
 * 5) International The News
 * 6) Tech and Biz
 * 7) Cricwick Lightburst (talk) 17:49, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The Boston Red Sox have existed for over 100 years, these teams have been for 4 years. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 18:33, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep The two largest power cities in Pakistan competing in a cricket league is a pretty obvious (and 100% planned) rivalry. In Pakistan, you'd probably get a shrug regarding Sox/Yankees, but this would earn immediate recognition.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 21:46, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. While there are sources that use the word "rivalry" (or rival), none go further than stating it as a rivalry – no explanation as to why/how it is a significant rivalry other than being from two big cities – i.e. coverage is trivial and does not address the topic directly and in detail as required by GNG (NRIVALRY). Further, it is presented in most sources as a city rivalry that has little to do with these cricket teams. wjematherplease leave a message... 08:48, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sound nomination, seems to be more the article creators opinion that an actual strong rivalry exists. Doesn't seem to be much out there which seems to provide significance about it. Plus, the teams have existed for 4 years, so there is no long-term rivalry there. StickyWicket (talk) 10:54, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete It should be an emerging rivalry between the two sides and sources do not exactly say that there is a rivalry between these two. This rivalry might not be popular like the Chennai Super Kings–Mumbai Indians rivalry in the Indian Premier League. Abishe (talk) 17:47, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom --<b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b> @  20:47, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep While it may not be the most popular rivalry in the world, sources mention it being the "biggest" rivalry in the PSL and it has reliable sources as per WP:RS and lastly I added a few more sources to the page CreativeNorth (talk) 14:33, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - to me this doesn't satisfy the requirements for a sports rivalry. The sources primarily refer to a rivalry between the two cities and any rivalry between the sides themselves seems to me to be exaggerated for marketing purposes - basically we have a single written source (the PCB press release which has been more or less reprinted in The Dawn and partially reprinted by CricinGIF) which makes any attempt at creating some kind of actual rivalry beyond that which you would expect of two sides playing in the same competition; the Express Tribune article uses the word rivalry in the headline but doesn't seem to discuss any aspect of real rivalry beyond that; the same is true of the Crickwick article. That doesn't bring it close to the level of sourcing required (for example, that of the East Anglian derby). The sources to suggest an actual, notable rivalry between these two teams just don't seem to be there. Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:15, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete There is no much references present to show these both teams rivalry. As per it Fails WP:NRIVALRY Mr.Mani Raj Paul   - talk  09:30, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. The sources presented above are satisfactory. Solo Samaritan (talk) 12:02, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nom and @Blue Square Thing. Fails WP:GNG. This "rivalry" among newly created teams is a thinly veiled marketing ploy and it's not Wikipedia's job to be a marketing department for private organizations. Newshunter12 (talk) 02:38, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


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