Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karel De Smet


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The result was   keep. Nomination has been withdrawn (non-admin closure) AutomaticStrikeout (₵) 01:19, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Karel De Smet

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested on the grounds that he plays in the K-League, but since he is yet to make his debut, this does not confer notability. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:20, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:40, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep - Article suggests he has played for Lokeren, who, according their article were in the Belgian Pro league in 1999-2000, which is an FPL. Willing to be corrected on this and also whether the Pro League was FPL at that time though. Fenix down (talk) 15:05, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * If that's true, then of course the article should be kept, but at present I cannot verify any of his appearances prior to 2008. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:10, 12 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 08:38, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. There's no doubt about his appearances in the Jupiler League for Lokeren. nl:Karel De Smet has a stats table sourced to bsdb.be, which is a free-to-register site and confirms his stats as per the nl.wiki page (apart from the last spell with Antwerp, where nl.wiki differs from en.wiki and both differ from bsdb). His bsdb page also gives disciplinary stats. He got sent off twice in those 10 games for Lokeren: this news article has him moaning about getting yellow cards against Genk, and also mentions it being his fifth game for the first team. This is a minute-by-minute against AA Gent: he played all 90. There seems to be considerable material, both footballing and personal, if a Dutch-reader were interested enough to write a decent article. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:28, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per Struway2. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:30, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - as nominator. His appearances in the Belgian Pro League being confirmed, he obviously passes WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:03, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep per the information provided by Fenix down, Struway2 and as the nomination has been withdrawn. He clearly satisifes NFOOTBALL and thus GNG  D u s t i *Let's talk!* 05:57, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - if I stumbled upon this article, I would have considered WP:CSD as "... is a Belgian footballer who plays as centre back." is indeed no claim for notability. But as Struway's excellent research shows, this is a notable topic and the article should be kept and improved to show why the subject is notable. Mentoz86 (talk) 21:09, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
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