Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karel Krejčí


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The result was   delete.  kur  ykh   00:27, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Karel Krejčí

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Flunks WP:ATHLETE. Unreferenced article by SPA. THF (talk) 12:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
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 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - article claims the player played on a Dukla Prague team that won two national championships, but this is unreferenced and doesn't actually specify if this was for the club's first team (Dukla did win the Czechoslovakian League 5 times in 6 years in the 1960s, when this player would theoretically have been active) or if he only played at youth level. User:Hedva's only other contributions were to create an article (now long since speedy'ed) that read: "Ashley Elizabeth Hedvika Krejci.  April 2 - present.  Daughter of soccer legend Karel Jaromir Krejci and of African-American and Czech descent. Her father played for Dukla Praha soccer team as a shooter. She enjoyed very close relationshop with her father and often refers to him as her "best-friend."" so there appears to be WP:COI here too.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - the only thing I have found about this person is this (either scroll down to the 17th entry or use the search function of your browser looking for "Karel"). It is not much of a help to ressolve the matter, though, as it only proves that this person really existed and was not made up by someone. A look at the history section of the current Dukla homepage was not very enlightening as well. He might have been a member of the team, but probably not as a regular player of the starting squad.


 * On another note, there is a former player and current coach with the very same name. This man was born in 1968 and is currently (according to the German wiki article) managing Viktoria Plzen. If there is not enough evidence to keep the current article, maybe it could be "transformed" to represent the current coach? --Soccer-holic (talk) 16:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - If he did indeed play for Dukla then he doesn't have to have been "a regular player of the starting squad", merely having played at a professional level would suffice. So we would need to ascertain if he had ever done so.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - This website has Czechoslovak match reports going back to the 1970/71 season, and no mention of him there. As mentioned above he would have played in the 1960s, and unfortunately, I'm not aware of a site that has information from that time period. Jogurney (talk) 23:37, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment RSSSF has match lineups for all Dukla Prague European matches. Krejčí is not listed, though this does not rule out domestic appearances. Oldelpaso (talk) 10:40, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Unverified or unverifiable. --Dweller (talk) 14:20, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per Dweller. Jogurney (talk) 14:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Stay hand pending research: unfortunately the equivalent page to this on cs.wikipedia.org is almost entirely abandoned. But a reasonable claim for notability has been made, and if it is the intention of this project to be complete, avoiding a bias towards recentism and the anglophone world, I think we should be more tolerant of delay in gaining info which is more difficult to access.  Having said that, my ability to research the issue is severely language constrained. I know one Gillingham fan who lived in Prague and follows Dukla: I'll see if he might know of possible sources. Kevin McE (talk) 10:10, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I have found 4 people on cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedie_diskuse:WikiProjekt_Fotbal (even I can translate that) who claim to speak English, and have requested on their usertalk pages that they have a look here. Kevin McE (talk) 10:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete The only player called "Karel Krejčí" who has ever played in Czech or Czechoslovak leagues was active during 90's. Dukla have never had a league player called "Krejčí". This person is probably completely made up by the author of the article. For references, see Atlas českého fotbalu (ISBN 80-901703-3-9) or Encyklopedie našeho fotbalu (ISBN 80-85983-22-2). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Honza Záruba (talk • contribs) 10:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per research by Honza Zaruba. Oldelpaso (talk) 21:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


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