Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karen Earle Lile


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The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 02:57, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Karen Earle Lile

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Does not meet notability criteria for WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. Google search for the name "Karen Lile" comes up with fewer than 100 results, none are reliable sources discussing the subject significantly. ... disco spinster   talk  19:16, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete: unfortunately I can't find any coverage in reliable sources to verify notability at this time. ww2censor (talk) 19:49, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - despite the WP:WALLOFTEXT above, not enough in-depth coverage to show they pass WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 01:19, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Given the large number of secondary sources which mention her, it seems to me she meets notability requirements.--Ipigott (talk) 08:48, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   11:29, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom. Karen Earle Lile is barely mentioned in the supposedly extensive coverage cited above, much of which seems to be completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. Zacwill (talk) 20:16, 2 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment: To and : The references you used to dismiss notability, were actually not even in the article itself.  They were included for this deletion page merely to support my statement that Lile was a female in male dominated industries.  The articles were not intended to be about Lile specifically, but rather to show that these industries are acknowledged as being male dominated, because I made a statement that she is a prominent female in 4 industries that are primarily male dominated.  But, since the major objection is notability, it is fine not to consider the point about her gender, since Lile is featured prominently in many of the newspapers, magazines, and in prime time news as listed in the article and mentioned again below in the references I have included and that be should be enough, regardless of her gender, to meet notability requirements of Wikipedia.  Below are references in the actual article itself Karen Earle Lile that were entirely focused on her work. Please see examples in the references I mention below.  There are more references that are entirely about Lile and Bean, over the years, but my understanding is that it is not appropriate to include too many references in the article, when a few will do.  I have seen these articles myself through library and microfilm and in some cases ordered copies from the publisher or obtained a used copy of a journal.


 * 1. These articles were about the Classical Music Video Lile produced for which she was nominated for an ACE Award. Included were two major newspapers on both coasts, with the subject prominently featured:  . San Francisco Examiner and  Orlando Sentinel


 * 2. She had 4 articles about her work in this magazine insert inside the Contra Costa Times: This was an entire magazine inside the newspaper devoted to an event she co-produced and with several articles inside about Lile’s work specifically. Now know as East Bay Times

— Preceding unsigned comment added by SoundNotater (talk • contribs) 09:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


 * 3. Here is an online article entirely about her work as the producer/art director for the USPS Building Bridges Special Postal Cancellation Series:  Berkeleyside


 * 4. This article was a major headline in the People in Business Section of the San Francisco Chronicle:.


 * 5. Her Classical Music video was in prime time news on KGO-TV and KSL-TV.


 * 6. I obtained a copy of this magazine from the publisher, and the article was about her work, prominently featured in a Global edition in the Forefront section. This is a recent article and fills three full pages in a journal that only has a few articles per issue that fill that much space. . The Music Trades (magazine)


 * 7. There were also many articles that had photos of Lile and Bean, one of which featured their photo as the front page of the Time Out Entertainment magazine titled "New Life for Old Keys in 1990, Contra Costa Times.  The Library of Congress has many of these articles on microfilm: https://www.loc.gov/item/sn79003824/  Signed by Signed by User:SoundNotater 4 Jan 3:42 AM EST SoundNotater (talk) 04:51, 5 January 2021 (UTC)Signed by User:SoundNotater 4 Jan 11:41 PM EST


 * 8  Lile and her family were featured on Dan Rather's 48 Hours (TV program)


 * Added to Article: I did some more research and added a section in article about Lile's role and major coverage as a whistle blower.  See the section Community Service.  Here are two references:Lile and Bean story prominently featured in Dan Rather's 48 Hours (TV program)  over a period of 6 months and the investigative report aired on October 15, 1998.  This began a succession of investigative reporting by television, newspaper and National magazines. The Lile-Bean Family story was included in Chapter 6 of a book published by Riverside Press called Help at Any Cost.

(ICE T • ICE CUBE) 08:00, 5 January 2021 (UTC)  I am a newbie. and I didn't know that I was voting 3 times. I saw the section that said please post new comments below this line, and thought that it meant I had to repost what I had written before with my additional comments. My apologies if I did it incorrectly. I removed the repeats SoundNotater (talk) 03:43, 6 January 2021 (UTC) User:SoundNotater 5 Jan 2021 10:41PM ET
 * Comment:, you have voted thrice already. You can vote ONLY ONCE. What you're doing is considered bludgeoning. ASTIG😎
 * Delete: Barely found anything about her aside from a Music Trades article. The rest of the links indicated by SoundNotater are only passing mentions. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 08:00, 5 January 2021 (UTC)


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