Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karen Graham (Dietitian)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  Sandstein  17:24, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Karen Graham (Dietitian)‎

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Being published does not quite mean that that author is neccesarially notable. PumeleonT 21:55, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It should be noted that there is a redirect to this page at Karen M. Graham. PumeleonT 22:06, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep I agree that just being a published author doesn't grant notability, but three books, the first of which was academically reviewed, Findlay, C. (1996) "K.M. Graham - Food Irradiation: A Canadian Folly" Journal of Agricultural and Environmental Ethics 9(1): pp. 83-85, does help. When a non-academic gets her book reviewed in an academic journal, that is one sign of notability.  Its also intersting that her menu book is routinely carried on Canadian libraries' list of "Health Literacy Resources".  It is a weakness that this is currently an orphaned article, which may say more about the Wikipedia than about her. --Bejnar (talk) 05:08, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Insufficient notability. Relatively minor works with minor reviews. Borderline speedy as a promotional article. DGG (talk) 05:25, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Review in academic journals alone has been struck down repeatedly as proof of notability. Trusilver  16:38, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - if this article should be kept, the typo in the title needs correcting..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ignore me, apparently there are two ways to spell "dietician", I didn't know that..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:30, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep as DGG said, an academic review for a non-acedemic's book is rare and gives said book notability. To get proper coverage, the author of the book needs to be covered too (we routinely delete articles on albums for which we don't have artist articles, indicating that both creator and product need to exist if product is 'coverable'. - Mgm|(talk) 12:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment uh... do you want to maybe read through this again? DGG's position was to delete the article, not keep it. Trusilver  15:09, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep--Meets WP:N, Google news shows that she has been cited as an expert by different reliable media. --Jmundo (talk) 18:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * A news report in which Graham is cited as an expert is of no use in writing a Wikipedia article about Graham. Indeed, being cited as an expert does not help one meet wp:n, which requires actual coverage of the subject. The sources you cite are about diet, not about Graham. So they support an article about diet, not about Graham. 160.39.213.152 (talk) 13:35, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - seems to be a particularly notable dietitian, judging by the links above. Terraxos (talk) 01:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The only significant source in that Google News list was an interview on CBC where she was promoting her own book. DGG (talk) 05:47, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * She was giving her opinion as an expert in food irradiation. Can you cite the part where she was promoting the book? --Jmundo (talk) 05:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.