Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karim Maataoui


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The result was Delete. Not because its a German subject (I agree with the sentiments about sytemic bias), but because its a non-notable German subject, per reasoning given below. Keeper  |   76   |   Disclaimer  16:31, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Karim Maataoui

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Although his band was popular, as an individual member of the band I believe this fails WP:MUSIC. — BradV 00:31, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep He was also a contestant on Big Brother Germany I believe, which is not notable on its own but added to his previous band membership may make the grade. My German is lousy but the charity single for Germany Helps ("Mastana") seems to have been fairly notable, and he has begun a solo career. --Canley (talk) 02:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.   —Canley (talk) 02:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete: A top Sex symbol of teenies?  Hunh?  Any source to #1 act in 20 nations?  Any record label?  Any real sales figures, and how does a band sell 10,000,000 copies (of itself?)?  If the person were of superior notability, there would need to be a head to toe rewrite, which means, essentially blanking, and that means, effectively, deletion, and this is if the notability were verifiable and verified.  Utgard Loki (talk) 14:59, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete big brother germany may make it famous in germany, but that's for german wiki editors to decide. Just had a quick look: The german wiki has a small page on him but this doesnt mean we need one too! --Camaeron (talk) 21:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment If he's notable in Germany, he's notable enough for the English Wikipedia. Should we restrict articles to subjects from English speaking countries only? Of course not. See WikiProject Countering systemic bias. --Canley (talk) 01:28, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Independent third party sources attesting to notability seem to be lacking. --Stormbay (talk) 02:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:V, WP:N. Blast Ulna (talk) 13:29, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


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