Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karin Horn Evensen


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The result was delete. Nothing presented convinces me the subject meets WP:GNG. Missvain (talk) 22:44, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Karin Horn Evensen

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A bronze medal on national level is extremely far from meeting WP:SPORTCRIT, and WP:GNG is also failed. Geschichte (talk) 08:02, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - meets neither WP:GNG or WP:NSPORTS.  Onel 5969  TT me 03:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep You have to see her in the perspective of that era and that the Norwegian secondary sources are not online. In that era there were, for women, no Olympic Games (in women's speed skating from 1960, for men since 1921), no European Championships (from 1970, for men since 1891). And yes, there were world championships but Norway only sent the best women to the World Championships. In that era women's speed skating was popular. Let me show, the Netherlands was in women's long track speed skating not as good as Norway, but the newspapers of the Netherlands are online. And of all people who were ative at national level in the Netherlands are meeting GNG. I created many of them; see for insntace the list of names at Template:Kortebaan speed skaters (women). To come back to Evensen, she finished third at the national championships. You say "bronze medal on national level is extremely far from meeting WP:SPORTCRIT", but note that all more recent Norwegian speed skating people who have won a bronze medal at the national championships have a Wikipedia page. However, as it's of the pre-internet era, you have to look in newspapers to establish GNG and I added already one good book source that writes about her. The Norwegian newspapers of that era are not online (by my knowledge). And because the most important thing at Wikipeida is Readers first, this article gives usefull information about a main Norwegian long track speed skater and her background, marriage etc. SportsOlympic (talk) 07:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  11:22, 11 May 2021 (UTC) Note: Was able to find a Norwegian newspaper that wrote about her. See for instance 22 January 1958 here. SportsOlympic (talk) 18:36, 14 May 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment See these norwegian newspapers https://www.nb.no/search?q=%22Karin%20Horn%20Evensen%22&mediatype=aviser as Karin Horn Evensen at the National Library of Norway. PS. Not all norwegian newspapers are digitized like this in the searchresult here. Best regards Migrant (talk) 00:34, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. See my reasoning at this similar AfD. JoelleJay (talk) 20:58, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Reply, see also the reply at Articles_for_deletion/Else_Methi. Also Karin Horn Evensen was one of the main speed skater in her era, winning many competitions and had podium finishes (see newspapers). And also note here that it are not only trivial mentions. And nice, even a short article about her marriage. SportsOlympic (talk) 14:35, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , can you point out which specific articles provide non-routine, non-trivial coverage of her? JoelleJay (talk) 18:48, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note 3rd related AfD: Articles for deletion/Elisabeth Schjenken. SportsOlympic (talk) 15:05, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:52, 19 May 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 00:08, 27 May 2021 (UTC) Comment. I'm still not seeing any SIGCOV here. The newspaper hits are all trivial mentions in meet results, and the "short article about her marriage" appears to be a self-submitted wedding announcement (this is the entirety: "Celebrated Saturday by Karin Horn Evensen and Femmo Breuwer, Holland. Adr. for the day: Odd Fellow, Gjovik.") of the type standard in local newspapers. There were a couple newspapers running that word-for-word, and a couple running this version: "Fernmo Brouwer, traveler, Gjovik, and telephone assistant Karin Horn Evensen, Stabekk". Clearly still not enough for GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 21:58, 3 June 2021 (UTC)


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